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I have been conflicted about the decision ASUS/Google made to omit a HDMI port & microSD slot on the N7. I feel the need to get a 7" android tablet but I am wondering if I should try this XO Vision 7'' Tablet For $99 to hold me over until someone makes a more fully featured 7" inch tablet, or just go with the Nexus 7 and make due with whatever workaround solutions I can find.
I am hoping that someone will come out with a tablet with the the same specs as the Nexus 7 with the added features of expandable storage and HDMI out. If they do this in the near future, I could then give this cheaper tablet to a family member as a gift and upgrade to whatever this new device is and not feel like I was missing out.
This budget tablet has pretty decent specs for the money except for the low resolution screen. I think if it had a better screen I wouldn't even hesitate.
Anyone have opinions either way?

All you asked for is an opinion, not facts. So here goes:
If you buy a $99 tablet, you will regret it. It will not be something to get you by, it will be something to throw at a wall.
There. That is my opinion.

Meh. The specs are OKAY. The low resolution screen kinda sucks (800x400). Personally i wouldn't trade the Nexus 7's support str8 from google, latest OS updates, the great rom/kernel development that I'm sure will come in the next few weeks/months for this tablet.
If HDMI and SD card support is that important to you then....

i get the feeling there are chinese tablets out there for similar price with better specs. The problem is finding them.
I like it. And yes, the problem is that you asked for an opinion, as opposed to any analysis.

Get the Nexus 7. Sure, other devices are going to come out with expandable storage, but this is a Nexus device. Everyone who waits for one and doesn't get it because it doesn't have X feature ends up wanting one in the long run anyway. This happened to me with the Galaxy Nexus. I decided to not wait any longer and bought the S II. I love my S II, but I would rather have the Nexus right now.
Either way, the $100 you spend on that tablet would be a waste. The low screen resolution would be enough to turn me away from it. The resolution on my S II (which is AMOLED, so not a fair comparison) is higher than that and it's almost three inches smaller. Imagine how horrible it would look on a 7" tablet. I mean, the Nook Color has a better screen and that one looks grainy to me at this point.

Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.

To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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Well If you want something to hold you over for a few months until you find what you want, you should probably go with the Nexus 7 and sell it on ebay when you find what you want. It will have much better resale then the XO and it will be a much more satisfying user experience.
Chances are the Nexus 7 will end up costing you the same in the long run as the XO once you take into account resale so you not really wasting anything and get a better system until the time you upgrade.
rmm200 said:
To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.
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Yeah that.. you kind of beat me too it.

The problem isn't the anemic hardware, but the crappy software. You'd want one with good community support. Right now, that's the KF. NC has good support too, but it's two gens old and a bit too slow.
Would suggest a used KF for around $100. Geeks are dumping it in favor of the new flavor. If you want mainly a good e-reader, suggest NC for $50-70. Both of course have ample support here. Set a search bot for CL listing in your area.

rmm200 said:
To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.
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Now this is what I'm looking for. I am looking for something with at least ICS on it though. And as these three are all in the same price category I'd definitely go with the N7 out of these for the OS alone. Do you really think resale of the N7 will be a viable option? I guess if I just knock up to $100 of what I paid, I could sell it and I'd be in that same situation as if I blew $100 on the XO tablet.

Cel1084 said:
Chances are the Nexus 7 will end up costing you the same in the long run as the XO once you take into account resale so you not really wasting anything and get a better system until the time you upgrade.
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I guess I have to kind of agree. Hadn't really thought about reselling as I hate selling things. But I am begining to believe this is probably the best course of action.

rmm200 said:
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets.
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Until the N7, I'd have said that about $199 tablets

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Were our opinions not constructive enough because we were telling you to not do what you want to do? Sorry. You asked.

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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get a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0, it has expandable storage and i think that it also has hdmi out too.

jtc276 said:
Oh, I'm sorry. Were our opinions not constructive enough because we were telling you to not do what you want to do? Sorry. You asked.
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Well, throwing it at a wall, I found to be a little destructive. :silly:
But you're right, I did ask, so I'll take whatever you guys dish out.

lovenokia said:
get a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0, it has expandable storage and i think that it also has hdmi out too.
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The day of the Google I/O keynote when they announced the Nexus 7 I almost did just that. I am still thinking about that option as well. The only reason I haven't done it is, I am left to wonder when/if it will ever receive the 4.1 update to JB. If I knew it was coming soon I think I'd be better off with this tablet for what want in a 7" tablet.

Is this thread about making an edgy decision for you? Seems you had your mind made up but wanted others to confirm and give you extra reasons to side with the N7
...Just saying
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suchavibrantthang said:
Is this thread about making an edgy decision for you? Seems you had your mind made up but wanted others to confirm and give you extra reasons to side with the N7
...Just saying
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Agree with this guy. You sound like you want 4.1, it's going to be a while before any other tablet gets that.
And the other guys above are right in the fact that N7 will hold it's value well. Go with the N7 and forget that piece of crap XO, you will regret the XO. It might even turn you off of tablets completely.
Get N7 and be done with it.
Then just resell it if something better comes along. And hey... if nothing better comes along... guess what, you've got the best tablet available at this price!
I'm personally planning to do exactly what I and others are suggesting to you as well.
I'm ordering an N7, but I, like you, would really like the HDMI out, so we'll see what Acer comes out with with their a110, and we'll see what other companies come out with as well and I'll look into video out workarounds in the mean time, perhaps we'll find a suitable work around and get to keep our super sexy HD screens and the latest versions of Android (including all future updates they day the are released rather than waiting months for other companies to implement updates - if ever).
Rock yourself an N7 my friend... just do it, stop hesitating, you'll thank us all later.
(not sure if I should even add this part to not confuse you even further but - if for some reason you're set on getting a cheap junk Chinese tablet to save a dollar though there's a lot better options than the XO Vision, keep in mind they're all still junk though, I'd say look at something like this instead: Ramos W6HD or perhaps Ainol NOVO Mars - I still say go with the N7 though, you'll be a lot happier in the long run)

Psipherious said:
Get N7 and be done with it.
Then just resell it if something better comes along. And hey... if nothing better comes along... guess what, you've got the best tablet available at this price!
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OK. Done. I am taking your guy's advice. But first, I'll back up a bit. I have a 64G LTE iPad. It has become my main device, I love the battery life & instant on features the most. I am completely sold on tablets. However the entire time I've owned the iPad, Android guys were telling/showing how easy it was to just stick in a microSD card full of movies & watch them or download something from the web on their tablet, pull out the MicroSD card stick it in a USB adapter & transfer files to any other computer. I've longed for those features as Apple has denied them to me as they must not think I can handle it. I have also come to the conclusion that I'd like a smaller, lighter, more portable device to carry everywhere that didn't cost me $900 like my iPad+smart-cover. So, for a LONG-TERM 7" android tablet at a MINIMUM, I'd like Buttery smooth (iPad-like) Jelly Bean, on at least a dual-core 1+ Ghz tablet, 1+ GB ram, with screen res of AT LEAST 1024x600, and it should have MicroSD & HDMI out, along with 9-10 battery life for being online. That's what I'd like in a LONG-TERM 7" android device. Any more would be a bonus. But I have decided to settle for the Nexus 7 until someone comes along with my Dream Tablet, and then I'll knock off $100 of the $286.33 I will have paid and use the remaining balance toward whatever the Nexus 7 killer is.
I think Android could possibly be better than iOS with this new Jelly Bean version but only if combined with hardware that takes advantage of all of its capabilities. I think Google/Asus hit a home run with the Nexus 7 but they could have easily made it a GRAND SLAM.

IM SOOO CONFOOOZED...
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Battery Life As Mediocre as Reviews Say? Bad

Here's reviews talking poor bat life: Surprising consider the big battery and supposedly more efficient processor architecture? The graphs on the Anandtech review are especially alarming. Processor benchmarks look great. Maybe there's settings other than screen brightness that you can used to combat the mediocre battery life? I won't be using the phone for gaming or watching movies.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
Waiting to see people who are using this for a few days are seeing it be disappointing compared to Galaxy S3, HTC One X+, iPhone 5 and/or iPhone 4?
Side story:
HTC One X+ one the way from AT&T. It's the One X with bigger battery, faster processor, and 64GB memory. Coming from iPhone 4 (tired of waiting for jailbreaks). I disregarded the Nexus 4 due to lack of LTE. But frankly, I don't do a whole lot on my phone that needs blazing download speeds and looked at some HPSA+ speed tests and figure LTE isn't that important.
If I throw out the desire for LTE seems I should just take the One X+ into the AT&T store for my one-time exchange, exchange for an iPhone 5, sell it on Ebay for $900-$1100 depending on mem config. and get an unlocked Nexus 4 8GB for $299 and make a nice little profit! Plus get Jelly Bean 4.2, not manufacturer-specific overlay, and first updates in the future! While lack of LTE is no biggie, mediocre battery will get on my nerves.

I got the phone today at around 10 AM, when it was about 75 percent charged. It's only down to 20% at 7PM. I haven't really done much but I'll give a more accurate reading tomorrow evening. I had it occasionally plugged into the computer to run ADB and Fastboot so it may have been partially charged during that time.

jazee said:
Here's reviews talking poor bat life: Surprising consider the big batter and supposedly more efficient processor architecture?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
Waiting to see people who are using this for a few days are seeing it be disappointing compared to Galaxy S3, HTC One X+, iPhone 5 and/or iPhone 4?
Side story:
HTC One X+ one the way from AT&T. It's the One X with bigger battery, faster processor, and 64GB memory. Coming from iPhone 4 (tired of waiting for jailbreaks). I disregarded the Nexus 4 due to lack of LTE. But frankly, I don't do a whole lot on my phone that needs blazing download speeds and looked at some HPSA+ speed tests and figure LTE isn't that important.
If I throw out the desire for LTE seems I should just take the One X+ into the AT&T store for my one-time exchange, exchange for an iPhone 5, sell it on Ebay for $900-$1100 depending on mem config. and get an unlocked Nexus 4 8GB for $299 and make a nice little profit! Plus get Jelly Bean 4.2, not manufacturer-specific overlay, and first updates in the future! While lack of LTE is no biggie, mediocre battery will get on my nerves.
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I dont think you will get even close to that much for an iPhone 5. Apple sells them for 699-899. Granted they have a couple week delay. But all the ones on eBay are a max of $100 over msrp, on average. Also, I don't think att would let you exchange the one x for a 64gb iPhone straight up. The 64gb sells for $399 on contract from att. So, you would only be able to exchange for the 8 GB.
So I figure you paid 200 for the ox+, plus the 300 for the n4, so by the time everything is said and done you would maybe be looking at a +$200-250. The question is, is it worth it to you to be tied into a 2year contact for that?
It is a nice sum of cash, but I hate being on contract
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dsmitty166 said:
I dont think you will get even close to that much for an iPhone 5. Apple sells them for 699-899. Granted they have a couple week delay. But all the ones on eBay are a max of $100 over msrp, on average. Also, I don't think att would let you exchange the one x for a 64gb iPhone straight up. The 64gb sells for $399 on contract from att. So, you would only be able to exchange for the 8 GB.
So I figure you paid 200 for the ox+, plus the 300 for the n4, so by the time everything is said and done you would maybe be looking at a +$200-250. The question is, is it worth it to you to be tied into a 2year contact for that?
It is a nice sum of cash, but I hate being on contract
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Do a search, completed auctions, Buy It Now, sort by price high to low. I'm a 100% Positive Feedback Powerseller with over 5000 transactions in 7 years and can offer free FedEx overnight shipping. I can tell you from experience, I can easily get $900 for the 32GB and $1000 for the 64GB. Easily.

jazee said:
Do a search, completed auctions, Buy It Now, sort by price high to low. I'm a 100% Positive Feedback Powerseller with over 5000 transactions in 7 years and can offer free FedEx overnight shipping. I can tell you from experience, I can easily get $900 for the 32GB and $1000 for the 64GB. Easily.
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Yes and that's the prices i said in my reply. I'm just saying you won't be able to trade straight your one x for a 64gb
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Holy crap, I must have misread somewhere that the Nexus 4 had a micro SD slot. It doesn't! I've got 15GB in MP3/m4a'S alone! This thing is a toy with that kind of memory. Google must assume you are going to have a constant Wi-Fi or 3G connection to stream your music from Google Play (and not go over your carrier's data limit). Insane. Keeping the One X+. I'll wait for a Nexus 4 with more memory and hopefully LTE at some point.

jazee said:
Holy crap, I must have misread somewhere that the Nexus 4 had a micro SD slot. It doesn't! I've got 15GB in MP3/m4a'S alone! This thing is a toy with that kind of memory. Google must assume you are going to have a constant Wi-Fi or 3G connection to stream your music from Google Play (and not go over your carrier's data limit). Insane. Keeping the One X+. I'll wait for a Nexus 4 with more memory and hopefully LTE at some point.
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Or, you know, different people use their phones for different things.

jazee said:
Do a search, completed auctions, Buy It Now, sort by price high to low. I'm a 100% Positive Feedback Powerseller with over 5000 transactions in 7 years and can offer free FedEx overnight shipping. I can tell you from experience, I can easily get $900 for the 32GB and $1000 for the 64GB. Easily.
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that's sad lol.. who would waste $1000 for a iphone 5 64gb or for that matter ANY phone?

jazee said:
Holy crap, I must have misread somewhere that the Nexus 4 had a micro SD slot. It doesn't! I've got 15GB in MP3/m4a'S alone! This thing is a toy with that kind of memory. Google must assume you are going to have a constant Wi-Fi or 3G connection to stream your music from Google Play (and not go over your carrier's data limit). Insane. Keeping the One X+. I'll wait for a Nexus 4 with more memory and hopefully LTE at some point.
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Believe it or not, the average user doesn't have that much on their phone.
Out of all my friends and even family members, i haven't really met anyone who exceed 8gb.

shadehh said:
Believe it or not, the average user doesn't have that much on their phone.
Out of all my friends and even family members, i haven't really met anyone who exceed 8gb.
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I have 40 GB of music...people just need to learn to cut the amount of music/media by a factor of 10. Perfect!

One of the interesting things from the tear-down in Anandtech was how easy it seems to be to get to the battery compared to the Razr.

oceansaber said:
I have 40 GB of music...people just need to learn to cut the amount of music/media by a factor of 10. Perfect!
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No, people don't because most people don't have 40gb of music, let alone think to store it on their phone. I can understand why it may be a problem for you, but it definitely isn't for most people.

oceansaber said:
I have 40 GB of music...people just need to learn to cut the amount of music/media by a factor of 10. Perfect!
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40gb at 10mb a song is 4,000 songs which is 16,000 minutes or 266 hours of music at 4 minutes a song. Surely you'll survive with less. Next you'll complain the battery doesn't last 11 days.
And the only thing people need to learn how to do is buy the device that is right for them and stop complaining about those that aren't when there's plenty of choice in the market.
Unless you're from one of the countries with government mandated Nexus 4 devices, in which case I apologize.

Did we really need another post regarding battery life?
And really there is no way you have 40gb of good music. Half that stuff has to be garbage........

Jebus! I thought this was a battery life thread not a no SD slot is a problem thread.

I really don't see how in the world people would even want to fit their ENTIRE music library on there smartphone... 15 or even 20GB's of music is surely insane... I know for sure you don't listen to over 80% of your library.. Want something that holds your music? Get an iPod, it was made for that. Want it on your phone? Buck into unlimited data plans on T-Mobile or (like me ) got luckily grandfathered on AT&T unlimited data.
If you have 15GB's of music "ALONE" then I don't even think a 32GB model would do it for you..
Cut down on music, and listen to what your realistic playlist is
If not, as I said before, get a cheap iPod on eBay, and you can carry that around with you if you desperately need your entire music library on you 24/7...

iAndropple said:
I really don't see how in the world people would even want to fit their ENTIRE music library on there smartphone... 15 or even 20GB's of music is surely insane... I know for sure you don't listen to over 80% of your library.. Want something that holds your music? Get an iPod, it was made for that. Want it on your phone? Buck into unlimited data plans on T-Mobile or (like me ) got luckily grandfathered on AT&T unlimited data.
If you have 15GB's of music "ALONE" then I don't even think a 32GB model would do it for you..
Cut down on music, and listen to what your realistic playlist is
If not, as I said before, get a cheap iPod on eBay, and you can carry that around with you if you desperately need your entire music library on you 24/7...
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Agreed. I have over 500gb of mp3 collection but a 16gb of storage is more than enough for me. Why?
I don't freaking put all the songs on my phone.
I stream most of the time(Don't bull about data cap, unless you stream exclusively on data, the consumption won't be 2gb at most. And you can use wifi whenever possible.)
When I can't stream, I put enough music on the phone which is far less than 16gb. (an mp3 album at good quality is around 60mb~150mb which is around one hour length. For 1 gb storage, you could get almost 10 hours' non-stop music. What's the possibility you will be on the road 10 hours non-stop?)
I don't watch movies on phone. (a 2gb HD movie makes no difference on a small screen from a DVD rip, plus video playback drains battery like hell.)
After all, people complain just because they are entitled or lazy, or in good cases, just less informed and savvy.

oceansaber said:
I have 40 GB of music...people just need to learn to cut the amount of music/media by a factor of 10. Perfect!
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I keep mass amounts of music on my ipod. call me old school.

strobex said:
I keep mass amounts of music on my ipod. call me old school.
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I keep my music library on my floppy disks, which are in a crate.

richteralan said:
I keep my music library on my floppy disks, which are in a crate.
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I just memorize all my music, then sing it out loud to myself when I wanna listen to it
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Just a bit annoyed

China gets an SD Card slot, but none in the US? WTF HTC? Get with the program, I want to upgrade, but also want to stop lugging my almost full 60GB iPod around...
Arrgh. It's all about me, and I want a damn Sprint phone that I can put 60GB+ of music on, as well as have room for photos, videos, apps, etc. FWIW, Streaming isn't always an option with the areas I travel in.
When will Sprint get this phone with a reasonable amount of storage?

They also dont have the unibody design. Att has an exclusive deal for the 64. Everyones moving to the cloud bro. Storage options are just gonna get smaller. Hell even the new chrome os laptops only launched at 32gb
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youkosnake said:
Everyones moving to the cloud bro.
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Samsung isn't and neither are most manufacturers; and look at where Samsung is now. Sure their build quality and design is not up to par with others but their phones are packed with features.
When you are competing in a crowded marketplace, it helps to have every feature that is possible to attract the widest range of customers.
Cloud services only work as good as the data connection and Sprint is the worst when it comes to data connection.
OP is just one of many who won't even consider the One because of lack of a SD card. There are countless others who won't complain or post their opinions or give any consumer survey; they will simply shake their head and walk to the next model.
I was one of them and I had filed away the One under my 'not preferred list', however the low, low, price that I had to pay for it, plus the USB OTG support won me over.
And HTC has shown that it is possible to include an SD slot in it, so why the hell not?

youkosnake said:
They also dont have the unibody design. Att has an exclusive deal for the 64. Everyones moving to the cloud bro. Storage options are just gonna get smaller. Hell even the new chrome os laptops only launched at 32gb
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Pretty much this. And while your bandwidth may not be acceptable in some areas, 32GB of storage for this phone is more than enough to put most of your favorites on just in case you aren't in an area with 3G or LTE. If expandable storage is what you're going after, you might as well jump ship and pick up an S4, or downgrade to an EVO 4G LTE (which is still a pretty relevant phone considering it'll be getting an upgrade that puts it at Sense5).
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hirent said:
Samsung isn't and neither are most manufacturers; and look at where Samsung is now. Sure their build quality and design is not up to par with others but their phones are packed with features.
When you are competing in a crowded marketplace, it helps to have every feature that is possible to attract the widest range of customers.
Cloud services only work as good as the data connection and Sprint is the worst when it comes to data connection.
OP is just one of many who won't even consider the One because of lack of a SD card. There are countless others who won't complain or post their opinions or give any consumer survey; they will simply shake their head and walk to the next model.
I was one of them and I had filed away the One under my 'not preferred list', however the low, low, price that I had to pay for it, plus the USB OTG support won me over.
And HTC has shown that it is possible to include an SD slot in it, so why the hell not?
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You're talking about all the "features" that Samsung added to the S4 to make it more attractive than the HTC One? Those same features that most people find a silly gimmick and will more than likely never use?

hirent said:
And HTC has shown that it is possible to include an SD slot in it, so why the hell not?
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Their unibody design is one of their main selling points. Thats why they released videos of the manfacture process. I rely on the cloud for everything. So the unibody+no sd slot was a nobrainer for me. And if you look at technology as a whole, the focus is on the cloud. Phones not as much but the stance is growing. The recent Google I/O basically boiled down to "Google glass lololzors Cloud EVERYTHING"
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Admittedly, I'm on a SERO plan, but the fact of the matter is that Cloud for everything will end up eating a lot of data and result in data throttling eventually. I prefer to use my unthrottled speed on data that I don't already own

Pyperkub said:
Admittedly, I'm on a SERO plan, but the fact of the matter is that Cloud for everything will end up eating a lot of data and result in data throttling eventually. I prefer to use my unthrottled speed on data that I don't already own
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I'm on SERO as well with very spotty LTE and just all around bad 3G. There's never really a time that I've run into not having data when I need it, unless I was in BFE North Florida in the middle of nowhere. And data throttling has never happened with Sprint, and so far has not been hinted at ever happening, at least not in the foreseeable future.

I used to want to carry ALL my EVERYTHING all the time but I grew out if that.
Don't see the point in trying to cram dozens of gigs of stuff into a device that I will likely never access. *Shrug*
I have a friend who wouldn't get anything without an sd card because he had "8 to 9 nand backups" and I said "wow, that's excessive and has no reflection of a fault on the design of the device but of your data hoarding practices" he almost seemed offended.
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USB OTG will solve those issues of local storage without streaming. Once you get used to it you'll be spoiled. I tend to carry a lot of development around on a phone and I still havent missed the sdcard. I rarely use OTG but I know its there when I need it. And since the OTG adapters were like 1.99 I have one everywhere so I don't ever think about carrying it with me, due to having them stashed all over the place. And the option is there for a lot more space than an sdcard.
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32GB of storage for this phone is more than enough to put most of your favorites on just in case you aren't in an area with 3G or LTE.
You're talking about all the "features" that Samsung added to the S4 to make it more attractive than the HTC One? Those same features that most people find a silly gimmick and will more than likely never use?
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Not talking about software features and not the S4 alone; in this case I am referring to all/most of their devices. And two hardware features specifically, battery and SD Card slot. Battery, I don't care about, the SD card, I do.
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Their unibody design is one of their main selling points. Thats why they released videos of the manfacture process.
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There's a SIM card slot in the unibody design; surely it is possible to include a SD card slot somewhere on the periphery?
All B&N Nooks have a SD card slot on the periphery of their devices.
With millions of $$ being spent on R & D by HTC, surely they could have found a way to include it in a unibody design?
The CEO has famously stated that he will resign from his post if the One turns out to be a failure. While it may not be a failure, shouldn't he be aiming for 'wild success' instead of 'mild success'?
Lack of an SD card may not bother many, but it is a no-no for a few. Shouldn't HTC target all those people too, especially when they are lagging in the market?
If they were market leaders, I can understand their doing this but not when they are struggling.
I upgraded to the One despite my reservations about the SD slot, the low price tempted me into buying it. I love the design, the construction and they way it works. But the lack of an SD card irks me. I plan on using the OTG support for an external reader but it is not the same.

The issue with finding a way to incorporate an sd slot in the unibody design is the fact that they literally ran out of room to the point that they had to INJECT moldable plastic into the device.
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hirent said:
Not talking about software features and not the S4 alone; in this case I am referring to all/most of their devices. And two hardware features specifically, battery and SD Card slot. Battery, I don't care about, the SD card, I do.
There's a SIM card slot in the unibody design; surely it is possible to include a SD card slot somewhere on the periphery?
All B&N Nooks have a SD card slot on the periphery of their devices.
With millions of $$ being spent on R & D by HTC, surely they could have found a way to include it in a unibody design?
The CEO has famously stated that he will resign from his post if the One turns out to be a failure. While it may not be a failure, shouldn't he be aiming for 'wild success' instead of 'mild success'?
Lack of an SD card may not bother many, but it is a no-no for a few. Shouldn't HTC target all those people too, especially when they are lagging in the market?
If they were market leaders, I can understand their doing this but not when they are struggling.
I upgraded to the One despite my reservations about the SD slot, the low price tempted me into buying it. I love the design, the construction and they way it works. But the lack of an SD card irks me. I plan on using the OTG support for an external reader but its not the same.
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As much as I hate Apple and the iPhone/iPad/iPod, their non-removable battery and absence of the expandable storage has shown over the years that people get by without it. Sure, a MicroSIM slot was added to ALL of the phones, but it's pretty much necessary to have it. Regardless of whether we want to see an HTC One with expandable storage or not on Sprint, unless Sprint says "make us another EVO with the specs of the One and the added SD card slot, it's probably not going to happen." This is pretty much becoming the standard across A LOT of manufacturers, and whether Samsung takes that road or not, they're not winning that many people over just because of that "feature." Only a small percentage of people want it to keep EVERY song they own, or a movie library, or every app that Google Play has to offer. To the rest of the buyers, it's just the fact that it's a beautifully designed piece of hardware that's capable of getting them through the day.

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China gets an SD Card slot, but none in the US? WTF HTC? Get with the program, I want to upgrade, but also want to stop lugging my almost full 60GB iPod around...
Arrgh. It's all about me, and I want a damn Sprint phone that I can put 60GB+ of music on, as well as have room for photos, videos, apps, etc. FWIW, Streaming isn't always an option with the areas I travel in.
When will Sprint get this phone with a reasonable amount of storage?
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It's probably Sprint that went for the no SD Card Slot Option and HTC just sold it to them as requested.

I would gladly have paid an extra 100 bucks for a 64gb edition One on sprint. Sigh, hopefully next year's phone will have that much storage on Sprint
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Pyperkub said:
China gets an SD Card slot, but none in the US? WTF HTC? Get with the program, I want to upgrade, but also want to stop lugging my almost full 60GB iPod around...
Arrgh. It's all about me, and I want a damn Sprint phone that I can put 60GB+ of music on, as well as have room for photos, videos, apps, etc. FWIW, Streaming isn't always an option with the areas I travel in.
When will Sprint get this phone with a reasonable amount of storage?
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Probably never. Sounds like you would be a great candidate for a 64gb Iphone 5 or moving to China.
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I would gladly have paid an extra 100 bucks for a 64gb edition One on sprint. Sigh, hopefully next year's phone will have that much storage on Sprint
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I would have paid an extra premium for more storage as well.
Too bad HTC didn't say we want this phone to be the "One" with the most storage. We are going to put 128gb on-board and fulfill all your storage delights for the year setting the bar for other phone manufactures to follow.

So it doesn't have an SD card slot boo hoo, you going to carry around 32 gigs movies or some s***?
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When are people going to understand that SIM cards are only good for pictures, movies and music?

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When are people going to understand that SIM cards are only good for pictures, movies and music?
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Probably around the same time that people realize a SIM and an SD card are about as similar as a Badger and Double-Mint gum.
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Probably around the same time that people realize a SIM and an SD card are about as similar as a Badger and Double-Mint gum.
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And the award for the best comment of the year goes to...

felacio said:
Probably around the same time that people realize a SIM and an SD card are about as similar as a Badger and Double-Mint gum.
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My apologies it was a typo. I'm sure your wise ass understood what I was saying.
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Tab S 8.4 still worth buying?

I've current got an LG G-Pad GPe, and I'm finding its 16GBs of storage really cramped. My comic book library through Comixology doesn't support external storage.
Best Buy US sells a 32GB Tab S 8.4, is that worth buying at this point? I've gone hands on with it a couple times on the display models, and that screen is simply beautiful. Not a fan of the physical button though. And on the display model, even after using the task manager to kill all, the thing still had 2.5GBs of its 3GBs of RAM in use. Is that normal for you guys? I am uncertain where I'd root/rom it, but I would be disabling swaths of Samsung apps and probably using Nova Launcher. Does the official Lollipop ota scale back the TouchWiz UI?
Or should I just say screw it and wait for the refresh? My Google-fu only turned up a few vague references to this summer though.

Bateluer said:
I've current got an LG G-Pad GPe, and I'm finding its 16GBs of storage really cramped. My comic book library through Comixology doesn't support external storage.
Best Buy US sells a 32GB Tab S 8.4, is that worth buying at this point? I've gone hands on with it a couple times on the display models, and that screen is simply beautiful. Not a fan of the physical button though. And on the display model, even after using the task manager to kill all, the thing still had 2.5GBs of its 3GBs of RAM in use. Is that normal for you guys? I am uncertain where I'd root/rom it, but I would be disabling swaths of Samsung apps and probably using Nova Launcher. Does the official Lollipop ota scale back the TouchWiz UI?
Or should I just say screw it and wait for the refresh? My Google-fu only turned up a few vague references to this summer though.
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I actually bought a tab s 8.4 a couple weeks ago. After evaluating the n9, I realized this was what fit my needs best. I absolutely love it. Yes, I needed to root it to remove some bloat and optimize it a little, but no, I don't have any regrets about my purchase.
Although I don't believe that best buy sells a 32gb version of the 8.4, only the 10.5. Then again, I knew I'd be buying a micro sd card anyways. So now I have 64 + 10 gb internally.
The tablet itself is a pleasure to use and if the other Samsung lollipop updates are any indication, this thing will fly on it. I'm afraid that a few years from now it will not be updated, but if it runs like this for the next few years, I'd be more than happy.
As for pricing, I got mine during a brief sale on buydig where the price dropped to $260 or so. Prices are going down but that doesn't mean it's not a terrific tablet. Hope this helps!
Lastly, your post belongs in Q&A, not general, per xda rules.
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nhshah7 said:
I actually bought a tab s 8.4 a couple weeks ago. After evaluating the n9, I realized this was what fit my needs best. I absolutely love it. Yes, I needed to root it to remove some bloat and optimize it a little, but no, I don't have any regrets about my purchase.
Although I don't believe that best buy sells a 32gb version of the 8.4, only the 10.5. Then again, I knew I'd be buying a micro sd card anyways. So now I have 64 + 10 gb internally.
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They sell a 32GB version of the 8.4, I've checked.
The tablet itself is a pleasure to use and if the other Samsung lollipop updates are any indication, this thing will fly on it. I'm afraid that a few years from now it will not be updated, but if it runs like this for the next few years, I'd be more than happy.
As for pricing, I got mine during a brief sale on buydig where the price dropped to $260 or so. Prices are going down but that doesn't mean it's not a terrific tablet. Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the feedback.
Lastly, your post belongs in Q&A, not general, per xda rules.
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My bad.

Bateluer said:
on the display model, even after using the task manager to kill all, the thing still had 2.5GBs of its 3GBs of RAM in use.
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Free ram is wasted ram. On a display model people have been trying lots of different apps and it is good that these have been cached into RAM. That means they can load quickly when you need to open them again. No sense in having 3gb sitting around doing nothing. Android is smart enough to release the ram when you need it for something else.

Bateluer said:
They sell a 32GB version of the 8.4, I've checked.
Thanks for the feedback.
My bad.
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Awesome! Didn't know that. No problem! Glad to help. Also, regarding ram, the above is correct as well. Demo units are just that. After debloating, I have 1.5-2.5gb as the ranges I've seen in the built in task manager. I do clear all apps in recent apps occasionally, which I'm not sure if it's necessary, but it doesn't hurt.
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codified said:
Free ram is wasted ram. On a display model people have been trying lots of different apps and it is good that these have been cached into RAM. That means they can load quickly when you need to open them again. No sense in having 3gb sitting around doing nothing. Android is smart enough to release the ram when you need it for something else.
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Most of the time, I wholeheartedly agree. I just get concerned with all a devices RAM is used on a fresh boot.
I just don't want to have buyers remorse in a month, if Samsung releases a refreshed Tab S line with 14nm silicon in it.

nhshah7 said:
Awesome! Didn't know that. No problem! Glad to help. Also, regarding ram, the above is correct as well. Demo units are just that. After debloating, I have 1.5-2.5gb as the ranges I've seen in the built in task manager. I do clear all apps in recent apps occasionally, which I'm not sure if it's necessary, but it doesn't hurt.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...onze/2064123.p?id=1219524352394&skuId=2064123
Only comes in Bronze though, and its on a small sale right now. 350 USD, usually its 399. Yeah, I know it says regular 449 on the page, but I've seen it multiple times on the Samsung display islands.

Bateluer said:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...onze/2064123.p?id=1219524352394&skuId=2064123
Only comes in Bronze though, and its on a small sale right now. 350 USD, usually its 399. Yeah, I know it says regular 449 on the page, but I've seen it multiple times on the Samsung display islands. [emoji14]
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I think 449 is correct regular price for the 32gb model. 399 regular price is for 16gb. 16 gb was on sale for 299!

Totally worth it. I got mine a month or so back and one of the reasons was for manga and graphic novel enjoyment. I use Perfect Viewer for my .cbr and .pdf reading - crisp and very readable text on the screen, plus you can have your library on the external SD. Size and acceptable weight in one hand is perfect for reading. I'm on stock firmware, rooted with some Xposed mods here and there. No issues with it so far. I wish the battery would last longer (maybe 1 or 2 hours longer would be perfect for my usage) but I accept that as a consequence of powering a screen this size and resolution.

YrrchSebor said:
I think 449 is correct regular price for the 32gb model. 399 regular price is for 16gb. 16 gb was on sale for 299!
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Probably. I ended up burning some of my stockpiled BB cards and got the 32GB model for 355 with local taxes and in store pick up.
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Totally worth it. I got mine a month or so back and one of the reasons was for manga and graphic novel enjoyment. I use Perfect Viewer for my .cbr and .pdf reading - crisp and very readable text on the screen, plus you can have your library on the external SD. Size and acceptable weight in one hand is perfect for reading. I'm on stock firmware, rooted with some Xposed mods here and there. No issues with it so far. I wish the battery would last longer (maybe 1 or 2 hours longer would be perfect for my usage) but I accept that as a consequence of powering a screen this size and resolution.
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This is my usage as well, though primarily through Comixology. Plenty of their content does have DRM-free PDF and CBR versions though, if I was so inclined to grab them. Probably should for some of the larger series I own.

I have the 32GB model and rooted it on day one then flashed Cyanogenmod.
I use Perfect Viewer for my comic / graphic novel needs and it works great!
You should be able to enjoy comics with Comixology with the lovely screen.
At home, my brightness level is only about 1/56 and it's a beauty to read comics on.
I was thinking of getting the 10.1 version but it was too big for my messenger bag that also houses
my Asus Ultrabook laptop.
You could wait for a couple of months more as the new line of tablets for Samsung will push the price of the Tab S 8.4 lower.
To answer your question, I think, yes it's still worth buying.

One serious problem with the current Tab S generation is the relatively weak CPU/GPU performance. If you read the reviews of Samsung Tab S, NVidia Shield, and Nexus 9 over at anandtech, you see that their benchmark scores of the Tab S look pretty modest relative to practically all big players on the market. This doesn't mean that the tablet always crawls slowly, but considering the pace of the continuous bloating of the operating systems and the web sites, I expect the Tab S to become outdated much sooner than say the Nexus 9. The Tab S should work fine for playing HD videos, ebooks, and most other applications. The screen is beautiful, but the responsiveness can bog down on some truly bloated web sites. Installing Ad Block can help.
It's an EPIC fail that the Google Nexus 9 comes with no sd card slot, but if you can live with only 32GB of storage, get the Nexus 9 IMO or perhaps take a look at Nvidia Shield. This week Best Buy announced $75 off on all Nexus 9 models. If you do get the Tab S, you can get the 16GB model, and then add a 64GB/128GB sd card for a small price (I got my 64GB for $30 on amazon).

I would personally wait for the refresh. I like my Tab S a lot, but its performance is indeed a bit underwhelming. It stutters on very high quality HD videos that my freaking Note 3 has no problems playing.

Samsung might have saved some money by using their own Exynos processor instead of Qualcomm in the Tab S (except for an LTE model or two). Maybe thats their standard practice in tablets, and international models? This did make me hesitate buying it but I ended up loving it anyway. But yeah my Note 4 with the Qualcomm 805 does feel snappier and such.

I think it is worth it. I just picked up one of these today for $80 bucks on Craigslist for my parents. I love it so far, the screen is absolutely gorgeous and it is so easy to hold. The only problem is that text may be too small for my parents to read. I might end up flipping this one and getting a larger iPad Air 2 or Tab S 10.5. I think the next generation of this device is going to be spectacular considering what Samsung has done with the GS6 and GS6E. This needs the updated Exynos 7420 and slimmed down TouchWiz.
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senneca01 said:
I think it is worth it. I just picked up one of these today for $80 bucks on Craigslist for my parents. I love it so far, the screen is absolutely gorgeous and it is so easy to hold. The only problem is that text may be too small for my parents to read. I might end up flipping this one and getting a larger iPad Air 2 or Tab S 10.5. I think the next generation of this device is going to be spectacular considering what Samsung has done with the GS6 and GS6E. This needs the updated Exynos 7420 and slimmed down TouchWiz.
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Wow, $80! What condition is it in? Good going lol. I know what you mean about the text size tho.... that's one gripe I have, is that bigger devices often have even SMALLER text!! The print on my Note 4 is bigger than on this. But luckily I can root, install xposed, and use the App Settings module to adjust it. Still it isn't as good as if it were fully scaled properly to the screen size. .

It's a great little tablet if you can pick it up on a sale or with unused gift cards for under $300. I rarely shop at Best Buy so the fact I had a couple laying around and an older phone sitting in a drawer they gave me $50 for got me to $255 for a new 32gb model. My company provides AT&T data cards so I have that going as a bonus as well.
It's not the speediest and Touchwiz is Touchwiz, just as Samsung is Samsung, but for a nice little travelling media device it's great, the screen is fantastic, good size too, and it's very light. It's the perfect train/hotel companion if that's what you want it for, like me. I was using my N6 for everything and granted the screen on that is a decent size and looks good but this is better for watching movies or reading, and not all that heavier either.
I wouldn't have paid $450 for it, the original asking price, and even $350 might have made me pause a little, but a couple dusty gift cards and and even dustier iPhone 4s that took forever to charge just so I could make sure it was wiped and we were at $255 which is a nice price brand new for this, at 32gb. Put my 128gb in it, Plex on it, and I'm off.
Need to root it now to get rid of some bloat and put an ad blocker in place.

I have a LG G4 and I want to buy new smartphone ... But used one for now.

Hey guys.. recently I sold my Oneplus Two after using it for 1 year and bought new LG G4. But I bought it thinking I can enjoy entirely new things. But unfortunately I lost my enthusiasm. I didn't love the phone for many reason. 1. Battery life is very low. 2. No unlock bootloader. 3. No root for Marshmallow. 4. Phone heats up very quick. And many cons too. Now I'm planning to downgrade to phone with good specs and not too high end. So I thought of choosing Nexus 6. What do you guys think ? Is it a right choice to buy used one with 203 dollar ? ...
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the n6 might have too high of specs for you

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the n6 might have too high of specs for you
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Simms i didnt mean that way.. But i mean not high end because i dont want people to point me at the phone such as Nexus 6P.. But do you think its a good idea if i move to Nexus 6 now ? Because its already 1 year old if im not wrong.
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I came from G4 to a Note 5 then to a Nexus 6. And would much rather have the Nexus 6 than either of those. I think you will be satisfied.
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sam razzy said:
Simms i didnt mean that way.. But i mean not high end because i dont want people to point me at the phone such as Nexus 6P.. But do you think its a good idea if i move to Nexus 6 now ? Because its already 1 year old if im not wrong.
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yea, the n6 is still a great phone, even though its not brand new

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yea, the n6 is still a great phone, even though its not brand new
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Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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Just this month I had an option to upgrade to a new phone. I chose buying a used Nexus 6 instead. I could not be happier. It has what I always try and make phones, stock android. There is still tons of developing going on. I don't even care that it is an older phone. I had the LG G3.

We can't answer that. Only you can. Nexus like you said yourself is considered old, however many of us would not consider the phones out now a considerable upgrade.

sam razzy said:
Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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I bought mine for $650.. so $203 is a no brained.

sam razzy said:
Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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You need to ask yourself whether 32GB is going to be enough storage for your needs. The Nexus phones don't have expandable storage.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You need to ask yourself whether 32GB is going to be enough storage for your needs. The Nexus phones don't have expandable storage.
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sure it does.. just not via sdcard.

I don't know about you, but in the OP's situation I wouldn't want to have to play around with a dongle sitting in my USB port simply to increase my storage space. Using a USB OTG device is inconvenient except in certain use cases, such as at home backing up a device with TWRP. USB OTG may be expandable storage, but it's simply not optimal. Thus the OP still needs to ask himself whether 32GB is enough.
I don't think 32GB is enough, not without being ruthless in your space management. I know you'll probably disagree, but I'm willing to lay odds that as an owner of a 32GB model you're pretty ruthless in your space management. Owners of 64GB devices have the luxury of not having to be so ruthless, and I really think it adds to the enjoyment of the device.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't know about you, but in the OP's situation I wouldn't want to have to play around with a dongle sitting in my USB port simply to increase my storage space. Using a USB OTG device is inconvenient except in certain use cases, such as at home backing up a device with TWRP. USB OTG may be expandable storage, but it's simply not optimal. Thus the OP still needs to ask himself whether 32GB is enough.
I don't think 32GB is enough, not without being ruthless in your space management. I know you'll probably disagree, but I'm willing to lay odds that as an owner of a 32GB model you're pretty ruthless in your space management. Owners of 64GB devices have the luxury of not having to be so ruthless, and I really think it adds to the enjoyment of the device.
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I don't use otg, but it is an option in expandable storage.. you said there aren't any options. I have a 32gb n6. I bought it in nov, 2014. anyways, 32gb is more than enough for me. and I mod my device, nearly daily. and have 2 3.5gb+ nandroid back ups in my storage. before n6, I always had 16gb. now 32gb is spacious for me. also, I'm an amateur photographer that only uses the n6 for photography. what I don't do is keep music on my device, that's what seems to save me. I use google play music services, and I always have that to use. when I take a subway home from work, I'll download several albums to listen to, beforehand. BTW, on tmobile, unlimited high speed data, in NYC

I forgot about USB OTG as an option. I stand corrected on that.
Like I said, you're ruthless in your space management, where I don't have to be. That however doesn't mean I'm not. If I were to put my stuff on your device, it would all fit with about a gigabyte left. Having used devices with far less storage, space management became an art form with me. But on this device, not worrying about how much space I'm using is liberating, and it's that liberating feeling that makes using this device more enjoyable.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I forgot about USB OTG as an option. I stand corrected on that.
Like I said, you're ruthless in your space management, where I don't have to be. That however doesn't mean I'm not. If I were to put my stuff on your device, it would all fit with about a gigabyte left. Having used devices with far less storage, space management became an art form with me. But on this device, not worrying about how much space I'm using is liberating, and it's that liberating feeling that makes using this device more enjoyable.
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ruthless, I'd never say that in this case. over time, I do end up deleting a lot though.

Had the G4 last year. Decided to sell it after a few months due to the subpar battery life. I do miss the camera and brighter screen, however, I prefer the N6 for the bigger screen, much better battery life, wireless charging and Project Fi. $200 for a used N6 is still a good price.
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ruthless, I'd never say that in this case. over time, I do end up deleting a lot though.
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Of course you could shunt what you delete to cloud storage. But the fact you have to pick and choose what to keep on your phone only proves correct what some sites, for example Android Authority, are saying now about devices with 32GB storage: it's really too small these days, so the OP really needs to think this through. Currently Swappa has 64GB models for a low of $280. $200 is an excellent deal for a 32GB device, depending on condition. But is the price worth the potential inconvenience the smaller amount of storage may impose?