Custom Kernel OC, Developers! - Ouya Android Development

Hi guys,
OUYA need some good developers or really good one developer. Where are the times when I had HTC Wildfire and with this phone was everything possible a lot of developers. OUYA kernel looks quiet bad. 720p doesn't work and gamming at 1080p isn't smooth. So we need overclock GPU (600MHz+) or make working switch to 720p. If you think you have had 720p already, check this at CPU-Z or Nenamark 2.
Goddamn my MK802+ with ****ty overheating Allwinner A10 is switchable to 1080p and 720p!
If is anybody here what can improve kernel or resolution please do it. I think we the OUYA users can donate good developers.

I'm still at it, but very little time to get into custom kernels
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nchantmnt said:
I'm still at it, but very little time to get into custom kernels
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Good to hear that. Could you make working switch to 720p and 1080p. I think this is what everybody want, could make OUYA powerful. Or disable the 520MHz limit for GPU clock. Please, I will buy you some beers

Mattthev said:
Hi guys,
So we need overclock GPU (600MHz+)
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Tegra Overclock OUYA Edition

Mattthev said:
Good to hear that. Could you make working switch to 720p and 1080p. I think this is what everybody want, could make OUYA powerful. Or disable the 520MHz limit for GPU clock. Please, I will buy you some beers
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why don't you use forced resolution mod in Mod Collection for Xposed Framework? should do at least the resolution part.
and for CPU/GPU:
I know for sure that tegra3 is build to be able to operate at higher temps and should be safe until ~75-80 degrees celcius.
With that in mind and the fact that we have active cooling i think oc should be possible, but would it be useful?
Stock CPU speed is maxed at 4 cores @1700Mhz, GPU is set to max 520 Mhz.
In theory it sould be possible to get a safe max for gpu at about 650Mhz, but you would notice the difference only a bit. Pumping it up to lets say 700-750 (technically possible but might become unstable) will bring just heat, noise of the fan and almost no noticable difference.
I started the kernel and did try some tweaks to get better IO-speeds and also tried to implent gpu-oc, but back then this kernel renderd my ouya useless and i had to order a second one. Since then and given the fact that this year had a couple of bad suprises for me and my family i still got lot of other stuff to deal with, whenever i got time and feeling like i want to, i get back to kernel development and try to a) unbrick my first ouya and b) read, learn and test some stuff. (i'm ne to all of this as well)
to this point i have nothing i would want to share, since it doenst give any pracital improvements to existing kernel
as soon as i have something that is worth sharing, i will do so

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Tegra Overclock OUYA Edition
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You should did your own researh ROFL
Max GPU clock is 520MHz check it out bro. You can't get more without custom kernel.
nchantmnt said:
why don't you use forced resolution mod in Mod Collection for Xposed Framework? should do at least the resolution part.
and for CPU/GPU:
I know for sure that tegra3 is build to be able to operate at higher temps and should be safe until ~75-80 degrees celcius.
With that in mind and the fact that we have active cooling i think oc should be possible, but would it be useful?
Stock CPU speed is maxed at 4 cores @1700Mhz, GPU is set to max 520 Mhz.
In theory it sould be possible to get a safe max for gpu at about 650Mhz, but you would notice the difference only a bit. Pumping it up to lets say 700-750 (technically possible but might become unstable) will bring just heat, noise of the fan and almost no noticable difference.
I started the kernel and did try some tweaks to get better IO-speeds and also tried to implent gpu-oc, but back then this kernel renderd my ouya useless and i had to order a second one. Since then and given the fact that this year had a couple of bad suprises for me and my family i still got lot of other stuff to deal with, whenever i got time and feeling like i want to, i get back to kernel development and try to a) unbrick my first ouya and b) read, learn and test some stuff. (i'm ne to all of this as well)
to this point i have nothing i would want to share, since it doenst give any pracital improvements to existing kernel
as soon as i have something that is worth sharing, i will do so
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Thanks
With this Mod app you can't get 720p your TV say that but if you run benchmark you will see 1080p a score like 1080p even your TV say 720p. Only way is use Tegra Overclock Ouya, you will get 720p but not fullscreen. In becnhmark you will see 720p and much better result than with 720p in this mod app.
Possible max for this GPU should be about 650MHz as you sad, I think it will give you few more fps at 1080p even more at 720p. But max cpu clock is 1.6Ghz for all cores only for first it is 1.7GHz. Check it with CPU-Z.

So first goal should be 1,7 on all cores. Shouldn't be to hard to accomplish.
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Tegra 2 overclocking

I already postet this in the Atrix 4G section, because they have a thread there about this topic. But they are discussing more about the locked bootloader than about overclocking and as we don't have such a thread here, I will start this one.
Perhaps you think overclocking actually does not make much sense on this device atm, as it is really fast, but I always like to get most out of my hardware that is possible.
I dont think, I would enable overclocking for everyday use now, but it would be cool to be able to do so if needed. At 1200 MHz as Nvidia had planned for the Tegra2 3D the Phone would for sure even beat the Omap 4 in Optimus 3D.
I am totaly new to Android and also to Linux, so I am not sure if this is helpful, but I have seen something very interesting in the Optimus 2x review at Anandtech.
I dont know where these variables are stored and what is needed to, but for me it looks as if we are able to change them, overclocking should be possible on the Optimus 2X.
It would be great if some oft the developers here could look into this when the Optimus Speed finally has been shipped…
I was wondering the same thing. So i checked other Tegra2 powered devices. And as far as i know none has been overclocked yet. Correct me if am wrong.
So far no overclock is needed since this phone is reaaaaaaalllly fast.
But I am sure as soon as it needs some extra power developers will figure out how to do it
Michael Huang (author of SetCPU) has just overclocked the Xoom tablet today. Now, while the Xoom is a Tegra2 device, its kernel is (apparently) Google based whereas others are nVidia based.
In overclocking the Xoom from 1GHz to 1.5GHz though, he saw about a 1/3rd increase in performance on Linpack and Quadrant. Looks promising so far.
Watch the video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNjHyAi8BI and follow Michael on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/coolbho3k
The Reason to Overclock the Atrix in my opinion is as follows
The Linux Based Webtop is slow in reviews
So when pluged into mains power it would be very usful to overclock the device to make the most of the webtop with less lag issues making the device far more usful if you need/want that feature.
Maby possible to make a custom dock (stick fan on it) and clock higher
I'm more interested in underclocking, especially when screen is off with a screen off profile in SetCPU. What do you think is the lowest possible frequency I could set it at?
You can put all the way down. I use the same settings in both my N1 and the 2x. Saves some juice. What I really want to see is custom kernels, pref undervolted if its possible.
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According to the SetCPU changelog, overclocking/underclocking is now possible:
2.1.1 - Fixed an issue with profiles backup in CM7.
- Added support for the Motorola Xoom, Atrix 4G, and other Tegra 2 devices.
- Fixed various bugs.
- Tablet optimized UI and more profiles coming soon!
2.1.1a - Fixed the 0 MHz display issue on some devices.
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Convel said:
According to the SetCPU changelog, overclocking/underclocking is now possible:
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How can you overclock with SetCPU then on o2x? Believe only the powersaving underclocking on demand is working.. overclock needs more work i believe.
The Xoom has been overclocked, but apparently the kernels are from google, which made it easier.
If anybody knows more about this, please correct me
The kernel must be adjusted to make overclock work. I got to read myself into this, but perhaps someone else knows already everything to it .
GPU
i wonder if the gpu can be overclocked, would be nice if it was possible too just OC the gpu and compare the results. Or do you think that the CPU and GPU clock speeds are somehow linked???
Any thoughts?
bumping cause im curious. Can any one please answer ?
well this is arm so id day they are linked
are we able to read the clock speed of hte gpu. does is change?
Look at the date mate
The GPU is not linked with the CPU. The GPU is overclocked in different kernels. Spica's kernel allows on the fly overclocking of the GPU.
After having this device for over a year, the only time i needed OC is for 720P Youtube or Youtube HD app. No OC on the GPU has ever been needed. Yes i have been playing around with 1.2 and 1.4, but they just consumed battery more than giving a better experience. I would go so far and say undervolt it and put it on 900Mhz.

Low 3D MARK scores post yours.

So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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JAsko_san said:
Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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i think that is a better score that i do have with V20C and iodak kernel, i will try another kernel and compare...
DankoFGL said:
So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
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Are you running anything else? I ran at stock speeds (no overclock anything) and got 4100-4200 on five straight runs. I have no idea what a normal score for the Tegra 3 is supposed to be.
I get same result. My kernel nothing touched from defaults.
I think it is ok all tegra 3 devices get similar scores one x+ gets about 3800.
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for benchmarking, stock rom > aosp rom > cm based roms > other roms, from my experience. even when you bring custom kernels to the table, it's the same.
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f.e., on quadrant, stock with custom kernels could go around 6100, aosp rom we have went to 5500, cm based went up to 4800, while others went up to 4500.
Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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DankoFGL said:
Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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Have you tried uninstalling all these overclock softwares and testing without them?
Flying_Bear said:
we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
Flying_Bear said:
yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
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Well i will download again from google play and come back and tell
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Flying_Bear said:
yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
Flying_Bear said:
average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
Flying_Bear said:
and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
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While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
Subtleone said:
While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
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I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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Subtleone said:
I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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it puts to 300mhz because is the minimun, in 520mhz the minimun is 200...
Edit: flashed back V20C, getting 3570 stock, i will flash Iodak again.. and test... without donwloading tegra overclock...
Edit again, this is with iodak v6 stock settings it seems that thegra overclock app reduces the performance of our devices...
Stock kernel has its gpu running at 200mhz base, scaling up to 416. Custom kernels can increase that, which leads to higher scores. I got 4k by increasing gpu to 520mhz. I don't see how just having tegra oc installed could break anything

Tegra Overclock OUYA Edition is finally here :)

What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
EDIT: Version 1.1 Change log
*Nothing new just made the interactive governor as a default rather than performance governor due to heating concern.
*Checked the code so that 2D GPU is set to 520 MHz too, in case it still reports half let me know..
EDIT: Version 1.2 Change Log
***Added requested LBCMT (LastBootCpuMaximumTemperature!) This shows the maximum temperature your device went during last boot.
***Added apply on boot (Works only when the USB device with at least a single file is detected to ensure you don't intentionally mess up anywhere )
The LBCMT will works as soon as you boot once after you open the app for the first time. Also note that YOU SHOULD NOT KILL THE APP manually by task killers or the reporting will be fake. BEWARE....
EDIT: Version 1.3 Change LOG
***Full screen stretched resolution support for CM11 Rom users. Use the special newly added resolution (will only work for CM users currently as no other 4.3 or 4.4 Roms available)
Fixes for temp not showing on custom kernel like EPRJ Kernel.
Thank you for being patient.
Kingshoo said:
What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
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now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
Awesome, finally the OUYA version, im about to jump on this right now and give it a spin!!!:good:
darkknight1812 said:
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
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i asked before install...now i saw it very nice and user friendly
.. one click optimization .. nice job .. cheers
sasuke1981 said:
now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
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Just Press the OK button and wait a few seconds as the settings getting applied. After that Run your Emulator Games and you should notice a difference . Note that Resolution options also cuts the screen area so use them only if a game is unplayable!
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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it's understandable for the lil guy to get hot quickly when you are overclocking the GPU+CPU, can't expected to run cool unless you put a better cooling fan into you console, i don't mid my ouya running a lil hot, well mines don't get hot enough cause my ouya got a acrylic custom shell with enough vents and airflow that keeps my console way cooler then the ouya stock/factory shell...
its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
Excellent!
I'll give this a bash tonight and see what improvements there are!
Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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Actually Temperatures are no problem for this chip as it can bear temperatures of 70 C with great ease as the manufacturer mentioned. Don't worry about that also let me know if they are above this temperature so that we can do something about that. If you ask me I am comfortable with 85C as that is what the throttle temperatures (Default mind you!). Just Relax and crush the games already
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its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
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The custom CPU clock feature conflict the one click feature and not to mention lower clocks are not required as there is no trouble with the highest speed since the cooling is active and with sink. Just don't worry about the temps too much as everything is normal here and the purpose of console is to bear high temperatures with high load even with little heat management..
I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). @Kingshoo, can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
Ipse_Tase said:
I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). Can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
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Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
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Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
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Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
After reading several reviews about Noctua 40x10mm A-Series Blades with AAO Frame, SSO2 Bearing Premium Retail Cooling Fan NF-A4x10, I decided to buy it. I replaced the noisy fan of my OUYA, and the difference in sound is amazing. I had to check if the fan was actually running because barely hear it. Also, the temperature of my equipment dropped ~ 10°C, so overheating issues could be easily fixed, if you decided to overclock. I recommend this product without a doubt. Check on eBay or Amazon.
If you want to replace the fan, here's a guide how to do it. youtube . com /watch?v=rra0FwlHvBA
Well honestly I wasn't able to play games on OUYA but since you people are playing games what the temps of CPU are anyways after say an hour? I am asking this because I don't see a need for custom coolers as 50C or 70C it really don't make any difference to your hardware. Yes the fan noise may be concerning to many but I have cotton plugs in my ears to keep it silent (these really costs cents and not $$!). OK so newer version will have interactive on one click..
My stock fan is totally silent anyway
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Ipse_Tase said:
Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
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i will also try this, i run my OUYA on performance all the time and it's pretty loud...

galaxy tab s2 9.7 increase gaming performance

In some games i get lag spike like gta san anders play on medium seatings and rawensword 2 i use game tuner but not help . how to increase performance for gaming maybe custom kernel or overcloking if its possible for it or some kind programs I'm new in android staff.
If the graphics on the 815 don't work for you then surely don't replace it with an 813/819. The GPU is supposed to be better on the one you have.
I don't think these are gaming tablets really. I don't know any that are but that's not my thing. They do have more RAM and better screens than most other tablets.
any other option ?
Maybe Apple is better for gaming? I really don't know. Hopefully a clueful individual will answer you. I am too new to the whole tablet world to know much.
i find gltools maybe its improve performance i see a lot of video of it . but its need root access? who have experience from it ?
I guess you could change the thread title and perhaps get more help.
bump any suggestion? i need to improve performance for some games not to much a bit game now rawensword runs 20 fps sometime drops to 15 in fights :/ i like to boost to 30 fps any suggestion i try different programs but no luck :/
The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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I've had the exact opposite experience.
The snapdragon version lags with many games while the exynos version played all these games smoothly...
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It's certainly peculiar. I couldn't play Asphalt 8 for too long without setting the resolution all the way down to 50%(1024x768). At 1080p it'd start lagging really bad on me in about 3-4 minutes at best. That doesn't mean it doesn't have an adequate overall performance, it's flying, but anything as heavy as asphalt or worse would bring it to its knees.
strange in asphalt 8 i have no lag run rely smoothly only san andres and rawensword run not what great san andres 25~28 medium graphic rawensword 22 in fight with max distance other setting cant change.
For 5.1 I was using optimal rom found in development section. He also made a kernel you could over clock with synapse support found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/nn-kernel-lp-t701-t3309570.com With synapse you can force the gpu to over clock along with cpu. Download synapse from market. In setting developer options turn off hardware overlays ticking that on will use the gpu for rendering. Off (default) cpu. At least that is my understanding. Some games work better with it on others off. Minecraft on I got 60fps at 2nd highest view distance using customers textures. Yet terraria would stutter on certain conditions but never a problem with it turned off. Warning though it will make your device hot where the cpu is. I've got no idea how well you're games will play as I have never played them. I did get a noticeable difference from stock vs the above. So maybe it's an option worth trying.
Hm thx for advise but i read all posts but i don't see anything say it's for 6.0 marshmallow and my it's sm-t815 lite version i only see 810? Maybe its work for my device ?
Might be too different. Not sure.
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/676f391aa
You have mobile data and I just have WiFi. Everything else seemed the same.
On my xoom it was from Verizon I flashed WiFi only rom and kernels. Lost mobile data but all was fine. As long as the kernal matched the rom. Worse case recover backup or Odin MM back on it. Just use the kernel with a 5.1 810 rom plus whatever you need to root it. I used that kernel with a few different romps but never cm since that's liable to be experimental still on my death bed. So it felt compatible with any 810 rom. If I was you and didn't mind losing cellular data I would treat it as an 810. Maybe do a bit more research and make sure they really are similar.
its same i see ok but one question if i flash this kernel how much i can improve performance like gta san andres can i play max at normal frame rate become on max now i have 17~21 fps i ask it become i was thinking its wort or not don't want to lose warranty
If you don't want to lose warranty then stock it is. That's my advise. I highly doubt you would break it but still if you dropped it in get it. You want that available. I've seen root options that don't trip Knox but I didn't care to research because I didn't have a warranty. I knew using ct auto root would void warrenty (method I used) before doing it. Search for different rooting options to 810.
I get not wanting to void warranty but if you're over clocking it, rooting, accept it as a trade off. You replied before I edited my last post so maybe reread. They are slightly different.
um when how about performance in gaming ? there i mention it i read it make 2.0ghz for 4 core and for others 1.5 or 1.6 it make huge boost in game or just small i rely care about it. ?
That sounds right. And the gpu goes up to 700hz. I think stock is 600. I don't play the games you are so can't say for sure performance but it was noticeable for me. I set both cpu min 1,000 max whatever max it allowed like you mentioned. So if it needed cpu it was there. Gpu I did max because there is a noticeable difference going from 600 to 650 to 700. Put the min as the max. Then toggle on turn off hardware overlays. Other games preferred the opposite. Max cpu for both and min close to max, whatever for gpu and no toggle for turn off hardware overlays.
Don't do max cpu and max Gpu. To much heat without any improvement. Pick one or the other as max, other one able to if needed. Here is what I ended up with.
Mine craft liked the first option. Not sure what it was playing at before over clocking. Maybe 30-40 fps while flying in creative mode. Got up to 60 fps no stuttering unless I was at a huge super dense forest biome where you couldn't see the ground. Probably used 25% per hour. I know mine craft doesn't sound like much but I had fancy on (transparent leaves), 128bit textures, 2nd highest view (it was far), and flying really fast in creative. Even bought a controller because of it. Though it actualy plays and feels better without. To wierd.
Terraria preferred all cpu so second option. Again you think but it's 2d. It isn't optimized by any means. Even on pc that game uses more then one would believe. I played at 60 fps with no slowdowns on second option. Without over clock it would stutter fairly easily vs completly smooth. It felt like whoever programed the cpu made sure they never gave enough power at any given time as a cruel joke. With synapse I could set the min as max and over clock it.
All I can say in the end it is noticable. It was enough to get 60fps. For a 2d game, it wasn't worth playing unless it was so. Download terraria dig a bit underground, get some lighting going and some enemies. Notice the wonderful stutter and ask why, it's 2d. Then you can decide if that vs 60 fps is worth the void warrenty and possibly broken device achieving it.
can y try gta san andres on max with overclock your system ? i'm rely curios
No.
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Supertweak for amazing performance b383 b386

Hey guys after long research i finally found how to solve forever the gaming smoothness and all performance with our p9
You just st have to be rooted and paste and replace those 3 files inside the . zip to this directory
/product/etc/hwpg
I could play all games, chain lots of benchmark without any lag
You can look at the screenshot to see my performance on antutu before my scores goes to 97000 to 83000 after 3 test.
I can also say i'm able to play modern combat 5, gt racing 2 without any lag at all
Test and tell me how your P9 look like a P10 now
On this screenshot you can see all improvement you'll get in front of stock P9 with really better scores on games
I think thats the max huawei allows, there can be more if a custom kernel or sources exist.
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I think thats the max huawei allows, there can be more if a custom kernel or sources exist.
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Did you try it my friend?
and...how about battery ?
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and...how about battery ?
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To be honest i have to test one fully day but it seems very good cause i just modded thermal configuration to haven't this huawei's disaster throttling.. So, task are done faster with higher cpu frequencies but with shorter time... I did some game and i can see my battery stay very good!
Plus when i saw configuration of those thermal files i could see it started throttling at 44 degrees.... So it was very low
If you want i can post a screenshot of my cpu temp with this mod but it's also very good a'd nit very high
I was test it now on antutu... Original settings: 3D score 10641/total 86541 and text "game performance is mid-level". With this supertweak: 3D score 20399/total 99597 and text"run smoothly for 3D games in mid-quality mode" it's better and faster, but only thing: is this safe to use this tweak ?
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I was test it now on antutu... Original settings: 3D score 10641/total 86541 and text "game performance is mid-level". With this supertweak: 3D score 20399/total 99597 and text"run smoothly for 3D games in mid-quality mode" it's better and faster, but only thing: is this safe to use this tweak ?
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For me it's safe i just disable the hard throttling part made by huawei and if you have kernel adiutor or cpu z to control your temp you will see it's not so hot, plus i'm sure always throttling and playing with cpu and gpu freq so much finally eat battery.
Attached a screenshot of my cpu temp
Id either throttling big and work more with little to save battery.
With Geekbench There is no difference between orginal and Supertweak, with AnTuTu I got 98200 Total with Tweak and 94820 without.
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96634 without
100011 with change
There is more possible if we get the known source.
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96634 without
100011 with change
There is more possible if we get the known source.
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Yes if phone is cold but if you do 3 or 4 bench you will see score with tweak will stay same and without tweak score will decrease to 80000
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With Geekbench There is no difference between orginal and Supertweak, with AnTuTu I got 98200 Total with Tweak and 94820 without.
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You can see more difference playing game or doing more bench chained
So i am really not good at these sort of things, can someone explain me detail by detail how to do this ? I'm afraid of messing things up, please help me
daily use
Is less heat throttling useful for everyday use without gaming?
For now after three days i can say there is no overheating at all with this tweak, it's super stable and i'm happy with battery now, i just plugged in my phone to charger now since i plugged it off yesterday at 6pm,i played a lot with clash royale and watched some video on youtube and doing facebook
Ariel98 said:
So i am really not good at these sort of things, can someone explain me detail by detail how to do this ? I'm afraid of messing things up, please help me
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First you must have a rooted phone and replace those files in the good folder with an app like root explorer and after it's done you just have to reboot your phone
Well I'm using kernel auditor. Do I need to disable the tweaks on this first?
absynte said:
Hello,
What's the diffence with setcpu for exemple....?
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With setcpu or other cpu manager app, you can change governor etc, but you can't disable the throttling made by huawei and then without this tweak your phone will slow down even if you put freq to max or governor to performance or not
benjamen50 said:
Well I'm using kernel auditor. Do I need to disable the tweaks on this first?
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You can keep your tweak if you want but you can also try without

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