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1. Does the lte version "C5303" support hspda+?
2. How much ram is user available?
3. Is the camera quality really bad compared to other 8mp devices?
4. Does it come with pre installed screen protector?
5. Does the phone gets hot while using it?
6. Overall is it better than the galaxy s3?
To answer some of your queries.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399479
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400530
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359795
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360982
And there are many more similar threads made for this topic in this section, if only you would spend a few minutes searching them.
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soudy1994 said:
1. Does the lte version "C5303" support hspda+?
2. How much ram is user available?
3. Is the camera quality really bad compared to other 8mp devices?
4. Does it come with pre installed screen protector?
5. Does the phone gets hot while using it?
6. Overall is it better than the galaxy s3?
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1. Yes
2. RAM or internal SD card? The 'user' doesn't really use RAM. About 5GB.
3. Camera is fine, but not excellent, which it should be. Considering Sony makes the iphone camera this is clearly a software issue hopefully updates will improve.
4. Mine came with a protector you could attach yourself (easy, see youtube for advice on perfect applications.)
5. It runs hotter than my previous phone, but not to the point that I'm worried.
6. Really difficult to say - the S3 was the best phone of 2012, the SP is a middle of the range phone from 2013. However in terms of screen size and performance the SP is very good - a bigger internal memory, a 1080p screen and extra RAM and it's a top end device.
The Samsung flagships are about massive screen, top processor and being super thin. In General Sony is more conservative, but they are less frail (I see so many S3/4s and iphones with cracked broken screens).
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6. Really difficult to say - the S3 was the best phone of 2012, the SP is a middle of the range phone from 2013. However in terms of screen size and performance the SP is very good - a bigger internal memory, a 1080p screen and extra RAM and it's a top end device.
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SP has a 720p screen... if your referring to the SP in that line.
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Yes I know, I'm saying if it had those things it would be top end.
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soudy1994 said:
1. Does the lte version "C5303" support hspda+?
2. How much ram is user available?
3. Is the camera quality really bad compared to other 8mp devices?
4. Does it come with pre installed screen protector?
5. Does the phone gets hot while using it?
6. Overall is it better than the galaxy s3?
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1. Yes
2. About 760MB in total, so on an average day about 300-350MB is free, in practice this means 100-150MB as 200MB is always reserved. I've never seen 1GB diminish so quickly! By rooting the phone you can grab some of that reserved 200MB back.
3. No. it's OK. What sucks is Sony's over processing. Too much sharpening, too much noise reduction. I don't think this will change, it's how Sony does things. If you don't "pixel peep", the overall photo quality is great.
4. No. But Gorilla Glass shouldn't need one unless you're very fussy about minute scratches.
5. Yes, when using it hard like long downloads over 3G.
Pete_S said:
1. Yes
2. About 760MB in total, so on an average day about 300-350MB is free, in practice this means 100-150MB as 200MB is always reserved. I've never seen 1GB diminish so quickly! By rooting the phone you can grab some of that reserved 200MB back.
3. No. it's OK. What sucks is Sony's over processing. Too much sharpening, too much noise reduction. I don't think this will change, it's how Sony does things. If you don't "pixel peep", the overall photo quality is great.
4. No. But Gorilla Glass shouldn't need one unless you're very fussy about minute scratches.
5. Yes, when using it hard like long downloads over 3G.
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I guess the reserved RAM of 240 MB for android system is out of 1 GB & not from 760 MB. Out of this 760 MB, one gets anything from 200-350 MB free depending on the apps running in background.
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I guess the reserved RAM of 240 MB for android system is out of 1 GB & not from 760 MB. Out of this 760 MB, one gets anything from 200-350 MB free depending on the apps running in background.
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I think the difference between the advertised 1GB and actual 760MB is for the GPU (Graphics) unless someone knows otherwise.
What I'm complaining about is even when the system says you have, say, 350MB left, the Android "minfree memory" parameter, which seems to be set to "200MB" on the SP, ensures you only get about 150MB, which explains why memory hungry apps like Opera browser cause other apps to be closed.
I believe rooting enables you to change the 200MB reserved memory to a lower value, say 50MB.
Hello
got anyone these loag problems when using google Maps or when using some apps at the same time ?
my phone starts to be extrmly laggy.
a phone with 1GB RAM lags when multitasking heavily? wow, that's unexpected!
I know.
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a phone with 1GB RAM lags when multitasking heavily? wow, that's unexpected!
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I am actually happy that unlike my old ****ty Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus, my brand new Moto G (2nd Gen) doesn't lag.
I've used GPS and PowerAmp (several times) with flawless performance, also running Next Laugher 3D, a power hungry launcher, with no problems..
Its all about what apps. one is running..some are more compatable with a particular device than others..
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My Moto G gets really laggy when charging and using snapchat at the same time. That's pretty much weird. :/
Only thing I have noticed is that when using certain apps and going back to the home screen...sometimes it takes a few (2-5) seconds for my home screen icons to show up. (Use Nova Launcher on every device)
I also have a 2013 moto g, a LG L9, and a cheap BLU phone...all with 1gig of RAM and none of them display this same issue.
My next
Moto G 2014 will be my next smartphone.
(coming from a fake mobilen (i8160 Galaxy Ace 2))
It's got some RAM managing problems I guess. I can't play Clash of Clans while listening to Spotify (music stops) for example.
Or the launcher refresh. I've got an htc one X with the same amount of RAM and that never happened to me. Wish they'll fix it, or that custom roms will.
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It's got some RAM managing problems I guess. I can't play Clash of Clans while listening to Spotify (music stops) for example.
Or the launcher refresh. I've got an htc one X with the same amount of RAM and that never happened to me. Wish they'll fix it, or that custom roms will.
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This. I've got some weird issues as well that I never had with my S3, which also has a gig of RAM. Hope lollipop or any other future update fixes this issue!
You can try to change minfree values as you wish, for example:
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echo "2048,3072,11520,16640,24320,42240" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
I'm quite happy with these values, more multitasking but still not so much lag
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You can try to change minfree values as you wish, for example:
Code:
echo "2048,3072,11520,16640,24320,42240" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
I'm quite happy with these values, more multitasking but still not so much lag
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How should i change it?
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How should i change it?
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You could just give that command from the terminal emulator on your phone but once you reboot you'll lost the configuration.
I made a script for SManager ( you can find it for free on the play store ) in order to run the command at each boot, it's in the attachment.
To configure it open the app, select the script from your storage and toggle "Su" and "Boot" as in the screenshot below. Of course root permissions are needed.
PS: I also managed to enable init.d support in stock rom in order to avoid using another app, but that command is not run ( or something else restores the default configuration after it runs ). Don't know why
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Ever since I changed my runtime to ART the hangup and lag have been becoming more of an issue to me. I own both the original and 2014 version of Moto G and I can say the former has a better hold on multitasking with the same exact apps that I have installed on my 2014 version. I'm still giving Motorola the benefit of the doubt though until they push the 5.0 update which I am hoping will bring better experience on the 2014 version.
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the LG Nexus 5X performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the LG Nexus 5X keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Does a pretty good job keeping apps in RAM considering it only has 2GB RAM. Can hold about 6 apps.
Holds up just fine with "only" 2GB of RAM. Would I want more? Sure. I don't think there is such a thing as too much RAM. However, the Nexus 5X does hold up just fine with 2GB RAM.
I think amount of RAM is fine, but...
Nexus 5X is very capable phone and multitasking is mostly fine, but I feel that it could be better if LG would use faster flash storage(throughput), when compared to lets say Samsung flash memory that is included in Galaxy S6 and such.
For the most part it seems ok, but i do frequently experience phone locks and lag. Snapchat seems to absolutely hammer the RAM and makes the phone practically unusable, known issue from what i've seen on the Play Store reviews.
Not sure if it's my configuration...
Maybe it's the apps and features I have configured, but I see the memory becoming a problem. I'm sitting at 80% or memory used most of the time, while my N5 (with the same amount of ram) is at 46%. My N5X leaves about 350MB free, which may not cut it for intense use. I'll need to look into tweaks to reduce the OS use of memory, but I'm surprised that the N5, with the same amount of memory but a slower processor, is running more smoothly.
Never had a dropped application. 2GB is enough. I only use 200MB and have 1.7GB available which is enough to run intensive games (which required around 800MB to run).
EDIT: I am using PureNexus as my ROM so it's probably due to optimizations.
2GB is good enough for now, but given that this is a 64-bit device that means installed apps are going to take up more space both in the storage and memory. 2GB may not suffice down the road, even though it's more than enough for now.
Yap, 2 GB is good enough for now.
I really don't think the 2GB is going to be a big problem for me personally.
The 5x seems to do nice job managing the memory. Granted i only use it for browsing and reading mostly. Also the occasional video. No lagging yet.
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Maybe it's the apps and features I have configured, but I see the memory becoming a problem. I'm sitting at 80% or memory used most of the time, while my N5 (with the same amount of ram) is at 46%. My N5X leaves about 350MB free, which may not cut it for intense use. I'll need to look into tweaks to reduce the OS use of memory, but I'm surprised that the N5, with the same amount of memory but a slower processor, is running more smoothly.
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I'm looking into this also, the nexus5 was just right with my usage, but the 5x is just short with the same apps
Opera mobile which uses a lot but the system is also at 650-700mb ram
Less RAM Available!!
This is my main concern along with battery
I use tasker, twilight, autovoice, Google now, join, and many other apps that need to be kept in ram
That would let me a few MB for keeping other apps like chrome or tapatalk. I predict redraws for that apps... Right?
(I'm still deciding between 5x and moto x style)
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Multitasking sucks on this phone!
Almost all of the apps refresh everytime, and the available ram is always around 400mb even when there's no apps running in the background.
Any way to.improve this?
Coming from Nexus 6 I have to agree the available memory is too low. Apps almost always close in the background and have to constantly refresh and lose progress. And its not like I've got tons of app running all at once, just simple apps like Firefox, inbox and WhatsApp. I'm running latest version of PureNexus Rom and available memory is always below 500MB. Wouldn't recommend this phone to anyone.
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After 10 months I still have no issues with RAM management on this device. My apps rarely reload and I've never seen a launcher redraw. I'm able to do GPS navigation in the hot sun while streaming Spotify and still able to answering a SMS with Google voice without any of them closing.
Those who load up on lots of background services might have issues, however starting with Android N that will no longer be a problem. See XDA article below on Android N limiting 3rd party background services.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-android-n-will-improve-battery-and-memory-management/
on hindsight whether 2gb of ram is enough will depend on how app developers are able to optimize their apps so that it does not hog unnecessary memory. however in the wake of the latest android n os with increase system ram consumption. i believe much modifications will have to be done to keep the 5x optimise and smooth for daily usage
Since Android N, i noticed something strange in games.
For exemple in Deus Ex Go or The Room 3.
The games runs well, but after some minutes, it starts to lag.
Don't know what's happen, it's like game is loading its content, level after level but never clean it after levels are done.
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Since Android N, i noticed something strange in games.
For exemple in Deus Ex Go or The Room 3.
The games runs well, but after some minutes, it starts to lag.
Don't know what's happen, it's like game is loading its content, level after level but never clean it after levels are done.
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It's probably more related to CPU throttling.
Android is doing the best it can with what is has on this device, but 2 GB of ram just isn't enough to handle heavy multitasking without some rather large hiccups where the device just slows down and chugs for a bit.
Looks like it is being released to reviewers first then to us. I'm excited to see what other tweaks are included and how it performs after that update. Although my screen seems perfect and I've changed my ram limit to use all 6gb, it will be interesting to see how the world reacts.
http://www.neowin.net/news/oneplus-...xed-in-upcoming-update-reviewers-get-it-first
Maybe a reviewer could give us that update file even sooner ?
I hope that both are only options in developer section. I have no interest in a RAM fix right now.
derdjango said:
I hope that both are only options in developer section. I have no interest in a RAM fix right now.
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Why not? There's nothing to lose and lots to gain.
EP2008 said:
Why not? There's nothing to lose and lots to gain.
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RAM fix may impact the battery life.
white43 said:
RAM fix may impact the battery life.
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Nobody has demonstrated that. I'm willing to bet that it conserves battery life because fetching an app from RAM is far more efficient than having to reload apps all the time.
Yesterday, with the ram fix, I got over 5h SOT with heavy multitasking. If that's the battery being impacted, then I'll take it :good:
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Nobody has demonstrated that. I'm willing to bet that it conserves battery life because fetching an app from RAM is far more efficient than having to reload apps all the time.
Yesterday, with the ram fix, I got over 5h SOT with heavy multitasking. If that's the battery being impacted, then I'll take it :good:
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Good to know, in which case - no issues with the fix my end.
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Good to know, in which case - no issues with the fix my end.
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I kill apps like it's my f'n job. If i'm not actively using it, kill it with fire.
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Because I agree with OnePlus' decision in the first place as it fits my usage better.
It has seemed to make my battery life better, and to open up an app exactly where I left off is amazing. I think it's worth the fix.
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Because I agree with OnePlus' decision in the first place as it fits my usage better.
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Their decision was because they wanted to conserve battery life - but if it doesn't have a negative impact on battery life, then that's a moot point, right?
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Their decision was because they wanted to conserve battery life - but if it doesn't have a negative impact on battery life, then that's a moot point, right?
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I don't know. If it doesn't have any impact on battery life and snappiness, then I would probably welcome it. However, I barely use more than 6 different apps on a single day, so I wouldn't even see a difference.
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However, I barely use more than 6 different apps on a single day, so I wouldn't even see a difference.
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I'm curious (please don't take this as being rude or anything). How are you using only 6 apps a day? I mean, just making a phone call, texting someone, and checking email takes three.
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I'm curious (please don't take this as being rude or anything). How are you using only 6 apps a day? I mean, just making a phone call, texting someone, and checking email takes three.
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Don't worry, no offence taken. A regular day would look like this:
phone, hangouts, chrome, inbox, whatsapp, camera, spotify - sorry, that's already 7, but I don't use the camera nor spotify (only in the gym) everyday. Most used apps are hangouts, chrome and inbox. I'm a pretty boring user but use my phone a lot.
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Don't worry, no offence taken. A regular day would look like this:
phone, hangouts, chrome, inbox, whatsapp, camera, spotify - sorry, that's already 7, but I don't use the camera nor spotify (only in the gym) everyday. Most used apps are hangouts, chrome and inbox. I'm a pretty boring user but use my phone a lot.
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Ah, I can see why the 6gb wouldn't be that important.
Do know that chrome uses a lot of ram! Every tab is an app. So 7 tabs is 7 apps
I've never been able to max out 3GBs of RAM much less 4 even with a 64bit Android OS. OnePlus added 6GB of RAM and USB C solely for the bragging rights, which explains why neither are implemented properly. I would have bought the OP3 if it didn't have either of them.
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I'm all for updates, and glad they're pushing them out quickly. Honestly though I'm perfectly content with the current version. I think the screen looks great, I don't notice any over saturation. And while I guess putting more of the RAM to use would be a welcome thing, I have yet to experience any kind of slowdown at all. I guess I'm kind of like Derdjango in that I use my phone all the time, but only a select few apps. Maybe closer to 10-12 depending on the day though.
Battery should be more efficient with multitasking, and a camera upgrade is badly needed as sometimes camera got buggy and stucks while clicking the pics.
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I've never been able to max out 3GBs of RAM much less 4 even with a 64bit Android OS. OnePlus added 6GB of RAM and USB C solely for the bragging rights, which explains why neither are implemented properly. I would have bought the OP3 if it didn't have either of them.
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I can see why people are calling USB C and 6 gb ram as a gimmick but if it's giving me a future proof phone, I will take it. 2 years back 2 gb ram was more than enough and today 3 gb is considered as a baseline. With 6 gb ram at least I will have options to keep this phone for few years even if it fails to manage RAM properly. We all came to XDA to learn how to tweak with our devices after all and it would be better to respect OP's decision of how to manage their OS and take the tinkering in our own hands.
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I've never been able to max out 3GBs of RAM much less 4 even with a 64bit Android OS. OnePlus added 6GB of RAM and USB C solely for the bragging rights, which explains why neither are implemented properly. I would have bought the OP3 if it didn't have either of them.
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Here is a screenshot where you can see only 1Gb unused out of 6Gb. 5Gb used for system, apps and cache. There are a lot of apps opened/cached (nothing crazy). Only 1 game in memory (candycrush).
The other screenshot shows battery life under this load. I must say, I'm quite surprised.
I think many people complain because they were hoping that less memory would've made phone cheaper, but I doubt that there would be much difference in price. I like 6Gb for the future proof as mentioned earlier. It can be used right now with build.prop fix or upcoming OTA. I hope that Google builds system that can even better utilize it in the future.
Hi guys,
I lived with low memory for a long time. Well, not ever. My first Android phone was a LG Optimus One, with Froyo/GB and 512MB. It was much memory (and useless, because the slow ARMv6 processor couldn't deal with it) compared the other low-end phones. The next phones, LG L3, Xperia Tipo, had the same memory size. Then I arrived to Moto G (falcon) times. Great specs (2013) to low-end devices. Revolution!
Three years ago we had JB and KK. Low system memory consumption. Facebook and Facebook Messenger was a single app. Whatsapp was lightweight. And 2GB phones was only for flagships.
Well, we come to today. Facebook alone eat more RAM than ever without Messenger. Whatsapp makes more and more things, and it occupies more memory. And Moto's LP and MM are heavy, much heavy. After some time trying to keep stock firmware, I wipped it and flashed XOSP, things are better, but not as desired.
Then, I ask you: how to live today with 1GB RAM? My Moto G 2014 "freezes" frequently. Multitasking is a dream. And Pokémon Go requires 2GB RAM devices (and crash sometimes because low RAM). Is there a hope? ZRAM? LMK? A lightweight custom ROM? Maybe an custom ROM compiled to optimize code size (using LTO?)?
Sorry by the sad mode. And terrifying english.
Hey,
i tested around with some custom roms, cause i had the same problems with the stock rom.
Finally i'm happy with this Turbo ROM ★ Layers ★ DUI [06/04/16][OFFICIAL] Custom Rom. I also flashed decipher as kernel. (not MPB) and installed greenify donate and l speed with the settings of amol amrit. Just deactivated the zram, cause Pokemon Go runs a bit better.
My G 2 feels like a new middleclass smartphone1!
Sorry bad english!
Pokemon GO is not working? Oh
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Pokemon GO is not working? Oh
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M playing Pokemon go on my moto g 2nd generation its working fyn .. i am on turbo rom latest build..[emoji6]
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I'm playing without big problems on stock marshmallow, rooted with little debloat
Access facebook through browser instead
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I'm using Turbo ROM for like 2 months atm and it's almost perfect, but still has some bugs. I was thinking of giving another try to the MM Stock XT1068 but, you know, I'm scared of Motorola devs's work. Should I give it a try or keep with Turbo ROM?
Try it, for me it's working fine, with small debloat
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Try it, for me it's working fine, with small debloat
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What script do you used?
Dan_Jacques said:
What script do you used?
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no script, manually deleted almost all Gapps and some motorola app with link2sd (with root)