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Pharos Traveler 137 wins CES awards, has T-Mobile USA 3G...

This new Pharos Traveler 137 has impressive specs, looks, gps, unbranded, unlocked, 3.5 screen, and best of all 3G for usa T-Mobile & AT&T(1900) users! It's scheduled to be out end of 1st quarter 2009. Here's more info...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1563...ne_offers_navigation_no_network_required.html
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/01/pharos-introduces-first-unlocked-t-mobile-3g-phone/
SPECS:
Operating system: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional (upgradable to WM6.5)
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Memory: 256MB DDR SDRAM, 512MB Flash ROM
Display: 3.5" TFT LCD Resistive
Resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA with 65K colors
Accelerometer
Phone: Unlocked with one SIM card slot
GSM Quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
EDGE / GPRS Class 12
Tri-band AWS 1700/1900/2100 MHz
UMTS 384Kb/s, HSDPA 7.2Mb/s, HSUPA 2Mb/s
Talk time: up to 4 hours ; 200 hours of standby
GPS: NMEA0183/AGPS compatible
Cold start <90 seconds (open sky, typical)
Warm Start <40 seconds (open sky, typical)
Hot start <1 second (open sky, typical)
Digital camera/camcorder: CMOS, 3.0 mega pixels, fix focus
Up to 2048X1536 resolution
0.3 mega pixels front camera for video conference
Antenna: Embedded (2G/3G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, FM)
Expansion: Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth® v2.0 + EDR
USB 2.0 High Speed
Micro SD slot support SDHC
Stereo audio jack through 11pin mini USB
Battery: 1380 mAh Li-Ion, rechargeable/replaceable
Device Dimension: 4.60in (L) x 2.40in (W) x 0.51in (H)
Device Weight: 4.94oz

gps services on a pay per day basis??!!?? euhm synonims like "prison sex" come to mind (something to do with ass and rape )
I WOULD NEVER get a gps phone that takes its gps service hostage against me the owner!!

Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.

Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?

-G- said:
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.
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I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.

AllTheWay said:
I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.
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or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/

galaxys said:
or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. At least the 624mhz one thats in the Omnia would be nice.

pjhollin said:
Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?
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It's a resistive screen.

I've been looking at this phone for a while, and now that it's out, I'm having a heck of a time finding someone who sells it that has it in stock ( tried the websites suggested here on their website). I did find it for $517, out of stock, on provantage.com but it doesn't seem like this phone is very accessible
I have no reason to be a skeptic as to this phone's ability to get Tmo's 3g. The specifications show that it has the 1700/2100 bands required for the service, but I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to try it out yet and what kind of dl speeds they are getting ( oh, and where you managed to buy one from)

FYI...it has not been released yet. The Pharos forum tech said on 03-31-09:
"The Traveler 137 is due to be released into the market in a couple of months. Unfortunately, we do not have the exact release date at this time. Thank you, Natalie"
Hopefully, they are trying to get WM6.5 on this bad boy for a June release...

when it comes to hardware, i will always check the cpu used
qualcomm = slow, very preformance lag & flickering

Nice shame no physical keyboard and no HTC build...

Agree that HTC & XDA support is important...
Also, it has the same qualcom chip and I wish it had the snapdragon!

FYI...PocketPC Thoughts announced the unlocked Pharos 137 (dual USA 3G & upgradable to WM6.5) finally goes on sale tomorrow at Amazon, Expance, Newegg, etc...
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/mob...ilable-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-6-5.html

what kind of freaking joke is this??
cant find the phone on amazon, dell, or newegg!
or any places that have the phone "available"!

^looks like Pharos Support replied to U on the their forum: that it would be delayed (again) for 1 week

they better not have anymore delays! i just hate waiting!
otherwise i'm going to get acer f900.
acer f900 uses samsung 533mzh cpu, is that better than qualcom 528mzh?
but f900 only has 256rom/128ram, but i think that is enough?

Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.

sikkboy626 said:
Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately, I have not seen any development (yet) for the PT137. It would be on the Pharos forum if there's going to be any cooking...
Note this just went on sale, so not too many have it...

i also have a PT137 and would love to see some rom development but i don't think it's going to happen here at xda. the pharos section in this forum is for the device htc made for them and i don't think htc is making the phones for pharos any more.
i will keep my fingers crossed and hope.

[Q] Xperia SP performance phone

Guys i am new here and i need help in choosing a phone
i previously owned Sony Xperia SP (C5303)
Everything stock
i got the latest firmware version and i lost the damn phone
i was happy with the specs and all with the latest firmware, without lags
it was not rooted
i only played subway surfer, temple run 2, asphalt 8, stickman basketball
games kind a lame or might be a bit gay for you guys but i just only enjoy simple games
now i am planning to buy a new phone that would have atleast same performace
if would have better performance much appreciated
i have two phones in mind.
one would be Asus phone Zenfone 5
with specs
ASUS ZenFone 5 specs:
5-inch IPS display, 1280 x 720 @294ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Intel Atom Z2560 1.6GHz dual-core processor with HyperThreading Technology
PowerVR SGX 544 MP2
2GB RAM
8GB/16GB internal storage
64GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
3G/HSPA+
Bluetooth
8MP BSI rear camera w/ LED flash
1080p video recording @30fps
2MP front-facing camera
Non-removable 2110mAh battery
Dual-SIM
Android 4.3
148.2 x 72.8 x 10.3mm
144g
the other phone i cannot name since it might not be available on other countries
Specs
5-inch IPS Full HD (1080 × 1920) display, 441ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 2
1.7GHz MediaTek MT6592 octa-core CPU
Mali-450MP GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage
No microSD card support
16 megapixel rear camera, w/ LED flash
5 megapixel front camera
dual-SIM (micro), dual-standby
HSPA+, 3G
WiFi b/g/n
Bluetooth
GPS
USB OTG
Android 4.2.2 Jellybean
2,350mAh non-removable battery
7.3mm thin
Both phones almost has the same clock speed with my SP
advantage is the RAM
but i am not sure which GPU or Chipset is better
factors
*display
*speed
*multi-tasking
i can consume 3gb of space for music so storage will not be a factor
i dont take pictures so much and when i do i erase them immediately after i upload them
5gb total amount of games to be used in the storage
please share your thoughts

Aerodisaster said:
Guys i am new here and i need help in choosing a phone
i previously owned Sony Xperia SP (C5303)
Everything stock
i got the latest firmware version and i lost the damn phone
i was happy with the specs and all with the latest firmware, without lags
it was not rooted
i only played subway surfer, temple run 2, asphalt 8, stickman basketball
games kind a lame or might be a bit gay for you guys but i just only enjoy simple games
now i am planning to buy a new phone that would have atleast same performace
if would have better performance much appreciated
i have two phones in mind.
one would be Asus phone Zenfone 5
with specs
ASUS ZenFone 5 specs:
5-inch IPS display, 1280 x 720 @294ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Intel Atom Z2560 1.6GHz dual-core processor with HyperThreading Technology
PowerVR SGX 544 MP2
2GB RAM
8GB/16GB internal storage
64GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
3G/HSPA+
Bluetooth
8MP BSI rear camera w/ LED flash
1080p video recording @30fps
2MP front-facing camera
Non-removable 2110mAh battery
Dual-SIM
Android 4.3
148.2 x 72.8 x 10.3mm
144g
the other phone i cannot name since it might not be available on other countries
Specs
5-inch IPS Full HD (1080 × 1920) display, 441ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 2
1.7GHz MediaTek MT6592 octa-core CPU
Mali-450MP GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage
No microSD card support
16 megapixel rear camera, w/ LED flash
5 megapixel front camera
dual-SIM (micro), dual-standby
HSPA+, 3G
WiFi b/g/n
Bluetooth
GPS
USB OTG
Android 4.2.2 Jellybean
2,350mAh non-removable battery
7.3mm thin
Both phones almost has the same clock speed with my SP
advantage is the RAM
but i am not sure which GPU or Chipset is better
factors
*display
*speed
*multi-tasking
i can consume 3gb of space for music so storage will not be a factor
i dont take pictures so much and when i do i erase them immediately after i upload them
5gb total amount of games to be used in the storage
please share your thoughts
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How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.

hey
Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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i am new here
how can i do that?
some moderator even moved my post to SP troubleshooting something posts

hey
Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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since you've read this, can you give out some ideas? which phone would probably catch up with the performance of SP? since you are an XSP user as well. other phones you can suggest? plsss? i am desperate

Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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I don't think there is a section on xda for these phones (MTK/Intel= no source code= no development= no xda forum)
Sent from my C5303 using XDA Free mobile app

noahvt said:
I don't think there is a section on xda for these phones (MTK/Intel= no source code= no development= no xda forum)
Sent from my C5303 using XDA Free mobile app
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Motorola Razr I->Intel Atom->XDA Forum

thanks
antkalaitzakis96 said:
Motorola Razr I->Intel Atom->XDA Forum
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if only it would be available in our country i would buy that phone since it was debated before against XSP
almost same specs but no memory expansion
btw do you have any thoughts about MALI 450 mp vs SGX544?

How do you expect XSP users to know what phones have same performance..?

Nanostray said:
How do you expect XSP users to know what phones have same performance..?
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i havent thought of that but i believe that some people here are knowledgeable about GPUs and chipsets.

Aerodisaster said:
i havent thought of that but i believe that some people here are knowledgeable about GPUs and chipsets.
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My previous phone was Motorola Razr I..it had an intel CPU..since It was running stock-pure android it didn't lag..but not all apps are compartible with intel SoCs because it's architecture is x86... 98% percent of apps would work with intel and others will have bugs
Now, I read that MediaTek CPUs aren't good but I have never tested a phone with that cpu
If I were you and I was about to choose one of those 2 phones, I would pick the Asus just because it will get android 4.4

[SG] Galaxy Note 4 Singapore users thread

DESIGN
Device type:
Smart phone
OS:
Android (4.4)
Dimensions:
6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches (153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm)
Weight:
6.21 oz (176 g)
the average is 4.9 oz (139 g)
DISPLAY
Physical size:
5.7 inches
Resolution:
1440 x 2560 pixels
Pixel density:
515 ppi
Technology:
Super AMOLED
Colors:
16 777 216
Touchscreen:
Multi-touch
Features:
Light sensor, Proximity sensor, Scratch-resistant glass
CAMERA
Camera:
16 megapixels
Flash:
LED
Features:
Autofocus, Touch to focus, Manual focus, Digital image stabilization, Optical image stabilization, Face detection, Smile detection, Exposure compensation, ISO control, White balance presets, Burst mode, Digital zoom, Geo tagging, High Dynamic Range mode (HDR), Panorama, Macro mode, Night mode, Scenes, Effects, Self-timer, Voice activation
Camcorder:
3840x2160 (4K) (30 fps), 1920x1080 (1080p HD) (60 fps)
Features:
Optical image stabilization, Continuous autofocus, Picture-taking during video recording
Front-facing camera:
3.7 megapixels
HARDWARE
System chip:
Exynos 5433
Processor:
8-core, 1900 MHz, ARM Cortex-A57 and ARM Cortex-A53
Graphics processor:
ARM Mali-T760
System memory:
3072 MB RAM
Built-in storage:
32 GB
Storage expansion:
microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB
BATTERY
Capacity:
3220 mAh

How much will in cost there?
Any info for Malaysia release?

No info yet on the pricing.

Still waiting...

Have you guys pre-ordered? and I believe most of you already know the pricing and release date.
Ordered mine thru starhub...hopefully can get the accessory pack. :laugh:

a little off topic but you guys know if the edge will be sold in the singapore? i heard it will not be sold in the philippines so if it wont come in the middle east i plan to buy it when i visit singapore next year. thanks

Just got it yesterday
Sent via Hondata F.Pro + NOS

Just got mine yesterday too but I'm rocking the Korean Exynos version. ^^

Does the 910G support 700mhz & 2300mhz?
Sent from my SM-P600

Mine will be here this Monday morning. I cant wait.

Got mine yesterday! Waited for about 25 minutes before I was served. Got the white one, and loving it!!
Just waiting to root it..
Sent from my SM-N910G using XDA Free mobile app

I got mine on first day as well and I'm just trying to figure out how to create folder on home screen. I'm bit surprised the option is not available.

Murali_ch21 said:
I got mine on first day as well and I'm just trying to figure out how to create folder on home screen. I'm bit surprised the option is not available.
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why? when you try drag an icon from drawer to home screen, there will be 4 options at top of the screen, the first one is "Create Folder".

Hay cheers Mr RomBox. I did know this and thanks for reminding me. But I was talking about creating folder directly on the home screen. Like drag existing icon on home screen to create folder.

Murali_ch21 said:
Hay cheers Mr RomBox. I did know this and thanks for reminding me. But I was talking about creating folder directly on the home screen. Like drag existing icon on home screen to create folder.
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Yeah, dragging an icon on home screen pops up Trash and Create Folder options on top, at least on my S5 Mini. Android 4.4.2 though.

Hay guyzz, this morning there was an update and after installing this update now can create folder directly from the home screen. Note 4 Rocks ....☺

Freakstyler said:
Does the 910G support 700mhz & 2300mhz?
Sent from my SM-P600
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That, is the $999.00 question
I'd *love* to know the answer to this... 700mhz in particular

senectus said:
That, is the $999.00 question
I'd *love* to know the answer to this... 700mhz in particular
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Please refer to the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2883741

Murali_ch21 said:
Please refer to the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2883741
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that link and the information on it is wrong.
The Australian model is 910G (confirmed from several carriers AND from samsung)
Its also the Snapdragon, that link says Exynos.
This is the Australian model:
http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...artphone/SM-N910GZWEXSA?catnm=Mobile&catid=MO
its a load of bollocks and cant be relied upon.

Cf-Auto-root for the *G came out today. Anyone used it yet?

Specs are out - $479, 16mp+20mp Camera, Bluetooth 5 , 3300mAh, FHD 5.5

Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/new_oneplus_5_render_leaks_alongside_specs_and_price-news-25593.php
http://www.androidpure.com/exclusive-oneplus-5-rear-panel-full-image-leak/
OnePlus 5 Specifications
Snapdragon 835 (2.45 GHz)
5.5-inch 1080p DCI-P3 screen
3.300 mAh battery
6GB/8GB RAM LPDDR4X
64 GB/128 GB UFS 2.1 storage
0.2-second fast fingerprint reader
dual camera (20 MP f/2.6 and 16 MP f/1.7)
Bluetooth 5.0, LTE Cat 12
Price: US$ 479

The dimensions should be fairly similar to 3T and Oppo R11.
1080p OLED screen + Extremely efficient 10nm SD835 + 3300 mAh => thats a great combination (on paper) for a device with great SoT/Battery-life.
If we are to take cues from the Oppo R11 reviews the camera setup looks exactly the same as R11 where the second camera is a telephoto lens for 2x zoom and portrait bokeh purposes. If they score 89-90 on DxO mark this is going to be one of the best cameras on a smartphone for 2017.

With the exception of a faster processor, more storage and dual cameras, doesn't really appear too different from the 3T.

This video explains the design of the Oneplus 5 and why oneplus probably went in the direction where they took best design elements out of 3T and marry that to the iPhone 7s design. The reasoning behind the placement of dual cameras and the odd antenna lines on the top seems to make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfmTt7vwMU

My take on the design... It's most likely going into a case or getting a skin slapped onto it, which will help differentiate the phones. Then there is also the fact that the iPhone 7 is a good looking phone...and it feels good in the hand.
I'm excited for the phone. No doubts about getting it. I already know the first thing I'm going to do with it... Take pictures of my Nexus 6P and post it on Swappa.

subashchandran said:
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/new_oneplus_5_render_leaks_alongside_specs_and_price-news-25593.php
http://www.androidpure.com/exclusive-oneplus-5-rear-panel-full-image-leak/
OnePlus 5 Specifications
Snapdragon 835 (2.45 GHz)
5.5-inch 1080p DCI-P3 screen
3.300 mAh battery
6GB/8GB RAM LPDDR4X
64 GB/128 GB UFS 2.1 storage
0.2-second fast fingerprint reader
dual camera (20 MP f/2.6 and 16 MP f/1.7)
Bluetooth 5.0, LTE Cat 12
Price: US$ 479
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With that speccs and design I think I am out, gonna wait for the new Pixels.
Perhaps I buy it and try it if it dont fits my needs I will sell it to my best friend since he needs a new phone and he other needs than I in an phone.

Hirs_E_Fruit said:
With that speccs and design I think I am out, gonna wait for the new Pixels.
Perhaps I buy it and try it if it dont fits my needs I will sell it to my best friend since he needs a new phone and he other needs than I in an phone.
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The new Pixels are to be made by LG, no way will I buy another LG phone.

Batfink33 said:
The new Pixels are to be made by LG, no way will I buy another LG phone.
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Still a a rumor, needs to be confirmed by an official Google Statement.

On the one hand it totally looks like a Oppo R11 twin with more powerful specs http://winfuture.mobi/bild/1497443227
But maybe there are some differences. Oneplus 3t is smaller than Oppo R11 and Oneplus published this picture which indicates IMO that Oneplus 5 is smaller than 3T.
https://mobile.twitter.com/oneplus/...45308.ampproject.net/1496877433269/frame.html

If OP5 would be even marginally narrower than 3T it would be a big selling point in my opinion.

maddes1402 said:
On the one hand it totally looks like a Oppo R11 twin with more powerful specs http://winfuture.mobi/bild/1497443227
But maybe there are some differences. Oneplus 3t is smaller than Oppo R11 and Oneplus published this picture which indicates IMO that Oneplus 5 is smaller than 3T.
https://mobile.twitter.com/oneplus/...45308.ampproject.net/1496877433269/frame.html
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That picture doesn't have the dual cameras so I doubt it's a Oneplus 5.
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ab7casper said:
My take on the design... It's most likely going into a case or getting a skin slapped onto it, which will help differentiate the phones. Then there is also the fact that the iPhone 7 is a good looking phone...and it feels good in the hand.
I'm excited for the phone. No doubts about getting it. I already know the first thing I'm going to do with it... Take pictures of my Nexus 6P and post it on Swappa.
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If only I can ditch my 6P & use the OP5 on Verizon. This would probably be the only reason I don't get one, is the fact it wouldn't be Verizon compatible.
Other than that, I've always wanted to try one. There is a slight chance of going to Tmobile, then I'm sure there's no issues there.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

jim262 said:
With the exception of a faster processor, more storage and dual cameras, doesn't really appear too different from the 3T.
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Uh yes, with the exception of the faster and more efficient processor, larger and faster storage, and superior cameras, it's essentially the same phone.

Any guesses as to the price of the 128 version? Is it like a flat 100 extra? The no SD card will be a first for me since I've had Android (2008) so I'm a little annoyed with having to use an OTG drive or whatever else. I would be much more comfortable with the 128gb version unless it's close to 600.

quickstang said:
If only I can ditch my 6P & use the OP5 on Verizon. This would probably be the only reason I don't get one, is the fact it wouldn't be Verizon compatible.
Other than that, I've always wanted to try one. There is a slight chance of going to Tmobile, then I'm sure there's no issues there.
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A guy I work with is thinking about the U11, because Verizon/AT&T doesn't work at his house. I personally use StraightTalk with a Verizon sim. If I need to, I'll just get a new SIM card and stick it in. I just hope it will still be available on the 23rd, as thats when I get paid.

such a waste on specs
1080p no led? > so 2010
dual camera ? > use a charl zeis 41mp best mobile camera ever, if nokia ever with those huawei and even iphone cameras get trashed
i had high hopes because i saw they atleast gotten a 5.5" led screen but you say its a lcd
and seriously these features are worth nothing, dual camera for what ? its not like it is more professional it shows how idiotic people can be to have dual cameras in a phone to take a picture or selfies
sorry il wait for nokia and its charl zeis camera, no one beats those as far as i know

Get a look at the pre-order
http://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-5.html
So costly at $599! I hope they make some adjustments!
And also, the 128GB variant should be with 8GB RAM, right?
How come this thread says $479 and the post says $449?
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/05/05/oneplus-5-listed-oppomart-full-specifications-449-pricing/

This message popped up when I searched "oppomart" on Google.
OPPOMART - Buy OnePlus 5, Xiaomi Mi6, Smartphones and ...
www.oppomart.com/
This site may be hacked.
Buy Oneplus 3 and cases, cover, screen protector, and other accessories for Oneplus 3 phone, free express shipping worldwide. OPPOMART is the best shop to ...
‎OnePlus 5 · ‎Phones · ‎OnePlus 3T · ‎OnePlus
So, I wouldn't trust anything on that page at all.

They aren't really releasing their next iteration without at least Quad HD Display, are they?

ArgonautPollux said:
They aren't really releasing their next iteration without at least Quad HD Display, are they?
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Probably trying to cut costs to a bare minimum, looks like they're trying to spin it with an accurate colour space but a massive mistake. A crazy move.

List of Supported Camera Sensors for RN4X SD

Hi all,
I used an app which showed the list of supported camera sensors for mido. See attached picture.
It would be awesome if someone can find one a better Sony module out there which fits this phone.
https://prnt.sc/hn3bck

well i see the imx378 is on that list? same sensor as used in the google pixel
this list.. is it sensors which are electrically compatible, or physically compatible? no good if it doesnt fit in the phone, or requires a different lens setup. the 378 sensor for example is 7.8mm . the standard sony chip used is 5.8 mm.. i cant imagine that working without an entirely new lens setup, and probably case mods.

robinlawrie said:
well i see the imx378 is on that list? same sensor as used in the google pixel
this list.. is it sensors which are electrically compatible, or physically compatible? no good if it doesnt fit in the phone, or requires a different lens setup. the 378 sensor for example is 7.8mm . the standard sony chip used is 5.8 mm.. i cant imagine that working without an entirely new lens setup, and probably case mods.
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I used an app from the Google Play store called Device Info HW which shows you everything about your device. This app detected all the above camera drivers installed (front and back cameras) on the device.
I did a bit of research online, but have yet to find a module that may fit on the Note4X. So like you say, it may need an entirely new lens setup even if is "supported".
So I'm not sure why Xiaomi would include these drivers in the system folder though? It did have drivers for all 3 back cameras (Sony, Omnivision, and Samsung), including the qtech and ofilm versions.

Very interesting. I'd like to try a cheap one on that list just to see if it worked but I'd really love to see the pixels camera shoved in there... I found one on 'witrigs.com' (can't link as I'm new) for $20 if anyone fancies taking the plunge.
Any ideas on maybe cutting the back panel to fit the sensor? I'd like to know the dimensions of the samsung/omni/sony lenses used if anyone can find any info on them. Are there any differences between the pixel and pixel XL?

CedricSnail said:
Very interesting. I'd like to try a cheap one on that list just to see if it worked but I'd really love to see the pixels camera shoved in there... I found one on 'witrigs.com' (can't link as I'm new) for $20 if anyone fancies taking the plunge.
Any ideas on maybe cutting the back panel to fit the sensor? I'd like to know the dimensions of the samsung/omni/sony lenses used if anyone can find any info on them. Are there any differences between the pixel and pixel XL?
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On Q-Tech's website I see they manufacture a bunch of different types of camera modules. The closest dimension I found was 8.5mm(L)*8.5mm(W)*5.3mm(H).
http://www.qtechglobal.com/product_info_1.html?page=2

yohyah said:
On Q-Tech's website I see they manufacture a bunch of different types of camera modules. The closest dimension I found was 8.5mm(L)*8.5mm(W)*5.3mm(H).
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Good work finding this, thanks! That one does seem bigger, the lens itself wider too... Could deal with that when we come to it.
Been looking a little more into this, I wonder how that list of supported cameras are provided by 'device info HW'? They might be physically compatible but to my understanding probably not fully. Looking in system/vendor/lib I can only find the files (are these drivers?) for the 3 different cameras that mido has shipped with. I have zero experience or understanding if its possible to add drivers through kernel or anything though. Maybe a dev or someone with some experience can give some insight but looking at articles like these:
h ttps://www.xda-developers.com/cameras-custom-roms-developers-make-hardware-work-without-source-code/
I believe this will be unlikely to work.

@CedricSnail
As you mentioned, the camera libraries are located in 'system/vendor/lib'. For my device I see all the drivers listed by the app in that folder (see attached file). Which ROM are you using? I'm currently using the China Devloper ROM.

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@CedricSnail
As you mentioned, the camera libraries are located in 'system/vendor/lib'. For my device I see all the drivers listed by the app in that folder (see attached file). Which ROM are you using? I'm currently using the China Devloper ROM.
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Oh wow, I'm on 'lineageos for microg'! Guess that changes things...
I'd be very interested in ordering some and giving this a try, the Z2's imx214 seems cheap so i might try that. I wonder would it be possible to include the libraries in a lineageos build?
Edit: nevermind, the imx 214, 298 and 2nd gen pixels 378 have a different number of pins on the connector from what I can tell from photos. They seem to have 17 pins lengthways as opposed to 15 on the imx258. However the 1st gen pixels imx 378 has 15 pins. I cant find any high resolution photos of the connections though so theres still a chance it may not fit.

Any updates on this ?

DO NOT waste your money on getting a different sensor! Just because the drivers are there, doesn't mean it's gonna work for the same chipset. Not to mention it would be a different size. Unless you can find another Xiaomi device's sensor that has the same processor and the same size and connections, you can't install anything else. Maybe Samsung Sensors could upgrade to a Sony Sensor, but not much more AFAIK.

chrismin13 said:
DO NOT waste your money on getting a different sensor! Just because the drivers are there, doesn't mean it's gonna work for the same chipset. Not to mention it would be a different size. Unless you can find another Xiaomi device's sensor that has the same processor and the same size and connections, you can't install anything else. Maybe Samsung Sensors could upgrade to a Sony Sensor, but not much more AFAIK.
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??

I just did some research online and I found out that the Redmi Note 3 Pro uses the Samsung S5K3P3 16 MP sensor, which is also included as a driver in the Mido folder. I looked on AliExpress and put together a comparison photo of the 2 sensors side by side and it looks like it may fit inside the Mido. (The number of pins are exactly the same)
Does anyone have a spare Note 3 lying around and would be willing to test on their Mido? I'm curious on the camera quality as it is 16MP vs the 13MP.

yohyah said:
I just did some research online and I found out that the Redmi Note 3 Pro uses the Samsung S5K3P3 16 MP sensor, which is also included as a driver in the Mido folder. I looked on AliExpress and put together a comparison photo of the 2 sensors side by side and it looks like it may fit inside the Mido. (The number of pins are exactly the same)
Does anyone have a spare Note 3 lying around and would be willing to test on their Mido? I'm curious on the camera quality as it is 16MP vs the 13MP.
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Hi there.
Please write if you do this experiment.
I have a question.
Can a madeiatek redmi note 4 camera fit on redmi note 4 SD and is the driver are included?
Because in my country i can buy camere from broken redmi note 4 for 10 euro.
And i know hot to open my phone because it broke before a few day and i have to go in test point to fix it.
Thank you.

Sectorian said:
Hi there.
Please write if you do this experiment.
I have a question.
Can a madeiatek redmi note 4 camera fit on redmi note 4 SD and is the driver are included?
Because in my country i can buy camere from broken redmi note 4 for 10 euro.
And i know hot to open my phone because it broke before a few day and i have to go in test point to fix it.
Thank you.
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Probably not as I saw that the MTK version has a slightly different connector than the SD (according to witrigs.com). I attached a screenshot of the image on their page.

i would try the pixel sensor since its supported

omarilzz said:
i would try the pixel sensor since its supported
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Please keep us posted about the adventure! If pixel camera fits in, then it would be exponential upgrade!

cha_indian said:
Please keep us posted about the adventure! If pixel camera fits in, then it would be exponential upgrade!
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u have link to store who ships these sensors ?

omarilzz said:
u have link to store who ships these sensors ?
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the best site to get the camera module is aliexpress.com but it is also risky due to scamsters posing as sellers.

Anything new on this topic??

It just shows the Sensors supported by the Board and the Processor. Everything's in the firmware not in the ROMs.