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Poll: Is AT&T losing you or have they already lost you?

Has AT&T lost your loyalty?
Yes, I have returned my phone
Yes, I plan on returning my phone
Yes, I am switching carriers
Yes, I am returning my phone, but staying with AT&T off contract
No. I am satisfied
No. I am not happy, but I will see what happens
I am here to support this cause
VOTE!

Where's the option for "I'm not going to use my upgrade and will continue off contract until this issue is taken care of."

racrguy said:
Where's the option for "I'm not going to use my upgrade and will continue off contract until this issue is taken care of."
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I didn't think of that :/ I guess that falls under supporting the cause for now..

I'm not really sure what I'm going to do. My Vivid is a work phone so I'm stuck on AT&T anyway. I could return it but there is no other phone that I really want. The new LG looks nice but it seems like development sucks for LGs even with an unlocked bootloader.
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id rather stay on att cause im not a fan of verizon. att has the same coverage in cincinnati ohio, but verizon cost a little more. my trouble is, which phone should i get on sunday when i return lol

pside15 said:
I'm not really sure what I'm going to do. My Vivid is a work phone so I'm stuck on AT&T anyway. I could return it but there is no other phone that I really want. The new LG looks nice but it seems like development sucks for LGs even with an unlocked bootloader.
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My assumption considering the specs the LG is going to have is that it will probably get a decent reception here. At least I would hope. Time will tell.

racrguy said:
Where's the option for "I'm not going to use my upgrade and will continue off contract until this issue is taken care of."
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+ for this option. I am waiting on sideline until this issue is resolved. I am happy to keep my aria running latest cm7 nightly.

In spirit, AT&T lost me many years ago. The only reason why I'm still with them is because of my corporate policy and them not allowing me to switch to Verizon.
Believe me, if I could, I would in a heartbeat.

I will continue with AT&T.
Have you called their tech support lately? They fixed my tethering, visual cm and sms provisioning and called back the next day to ensure it was fixed.
CIQ doesn't bother me. This is a work phone. Work already has the right to monitor me. They purchased the phone and pay for the plan.
In general, I am a doer and not a whiner. If it works for me and helps me get things done and doesn't harm me, great!
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malickie said:
My assumption considering the specs the LG is going to have is that it will probably get a decent reception here. At least I would hope. Time will tell.
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You may be right. I'll probably give this phone another few weeks though. This is the phone I've wanted since the Holiday was first leaked.
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willgill said:
I will continue with AT&T.
Have you called their tech support lately? They fixed my tethering, visual cm and sms provisioning and called back the next day to ensure it was fixed.
CIQ doesn't bother me. This is a work phone. Work already has the right to monitor me. They purchased the phone and pay for the plan.
In general, I am a doer and not a whiner. If it works for me and helps me get things done and doesn't harm me, great!
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You've got to be kidding me. You're calling us whiners and not doers? Have you even been following this forum at all? Of course we have called tech support!
And this all makes sense now. The reasons you're defending them. "CIQ doesn't bother me." "It works for me and doesn't harm me" You're just selfish. Do you realize how many people are affected by CIQ? Chances are someone you know or even a family member is affected. Your "you agreed to terms" argument doesn't apply here like you tried to use in another thread. CIQ is doing things without our consent or permission! This isn't about just what affects "ME". This is about all of us and how we're being affected. Everyone has a different lifestyle and most of us don't have "work Vivids".
You don't want to participate in what we're trying to do, then don't. Want to stay with AT&T? Cool. But what's the point of trolling here? As long as we know now that you've been exposed as a selfish troll, No one really cares what you have to say.

Reclaim said:
You've got to be kidding me. You're calling us whiners and not doers? Have you even been following this forum at all? Of course we have called tech support!
And this all makes sense now. The reasons you're defending them. "CIQ doesn't bother me." "It works for me and doesn't harm me" You're just selfish. Do you realize how many people are affected by CIQ? Chances are someone you know or even a family member is affected. Your "you agreed to terms" argument doesn't apply here like you tried to use in another thread. CIQ is doing things without our consent or permission! This isn't about just what affects "ME". This is about all of us and how we're being affected. Everyone has a different lifestyle and most of us don't have "work Vivids".
You don't want to participate in what we're trying to do, then don't. Want to stay with AT&T? Cool. But what's the point of trolling here? As long as we know now that you've been exposed as a selfish troll, No one really cares what you have to say.
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I am participating. It is just another view. I am not some occupy zombie. Talk about selfish...trying to silence another's opinion would be the epitome of selfishness.
Let me know how you have been affected by CIQ. Has something changed in your life. I am guessing not because you didn't know until someone pointed it out.
By "doing" and not whining I mean TRULY make a difference. Instead of flooding corporate sites with noise, help with investigation. Make a case. How does it affect you? What did you agree to? Have you done due diligence and reread your contract?
These things make a difference.
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willgill said:
I am participating. It is just another view. I am not some occupy zombie. Talk about selfish...trying to silence another's opinion would be the epitome of selfishness.
Let me know how you have been affected by CIQ. Has something changed in your life. I am guessing not because you didn't know until someone pointed it out.
By "doing" and not whining I mean TRULY make a difference. Instead of flooding corporate sites with noise, help with investigation. Make a case. How does it affect you? What did you agree to? Have you done due diligence and reread your contract?
These things make a difference.
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We helped raise awareness. That's most certainly doing something. I would love to do whatever I could. How is this occupying anything? No one is camping outside AT&T offices trying to protest.
And that's the issue. We HAD to be told that we were being monitored. So before it causes any real damage, it needs to be stopped. Just think if someone figured out that the PSN had an exploit before the the attack went down. We have the opportunity to do things we couldn't in other situations.

Until they kick me off my unlimited plan I will stay loyal. This whole Vivid situation was perfect timing in my mind. Was able to get the phone for $25 no contract so I kept it a few weeks waiting out the locked bootloader issue. Seeing that it may take awhile I sold the Vivid for $300 and bought a Galaxy Nexus HSPA+ and couldn't be happier.

Everyone, step back. OP, don't ask for opinions then complain you don't like some of those opinions. WillGill, that's pretty rude calling folks trying to do something "whiners". Which is what you did.
I believe it's important for people to shout it out when Big Brother starts to over reach. I appreciate the efforts of many here to expose and Kill CarrierIQ.
We live in a society that is becoming increasingly corrupt. Congress has made many forms of bribery completely legal, so that they can try and pretend that they're still the good guys. For the first time in history, Congress has been completely bought and paid for by those wishing to bend the system to their own selfish concerns. At the same time, the Internet has made it possible--for the first time in history--for the masses to become fully informed and fight this attack on our society.
The occupy movement is a good example of people coming together to fight terrible changes in our society, and this movement is fueled by information available on the Internet. Unfortunately, Occupy has failed miserably. If they've done anything, they've helped those people they're trying to fight. It's really too bad, they could have had a major impact had they targeted those people that actually could change the system--Congress.
We no longer hold politicians accountable for their corruption and the damage they've done to the system. We blindly accept whatever they've got to say, as long as they support a few pet causes we hold dear. Liberals--by and large--support Democrats, regardless of how huge the bribes they take are. Look at Nancy Pelosi: almost universally adored among the liberals and yet crooked beyond belief. Oh, that's right, she's not crooked. Congress has made it legal for her to accept bribes so large that they're unprecedented in history. And don't be smug conservatives, the Republicans are no better. Both sides are laughing all the way to the bank, whilst we cling to a few small issues that we feel differentiates liberals and conservatives.
As you rail against CarrierIQ, please don't forget who's sitting back and doing nothing even though they're vested with the responsibility to defend our privacy and our freedom. It's time we held congress's feet to the fire, regardless if we consider ourselves liberal or conservative.When you vote, look past whether a candidate is liberal or conservative. If they're honest, it will all work itself out. Cry out for candidates who are honest, who will fight CarrierIQ and every such intrusion into our lives. Don't accept corruption.

Nakel, you may have missed my point. All this ranting and raving without fact checking and knowing legal rights is just whining. Instead, I recommend true action.
Occupiers, by definition, are just taking up space. They change nothing other than kill park grass, leave filth, not to mention the rapes, drug deaths and deficating on cop cars. And no... I'm not making that up. Google it. That's the wrong message.
Actually what I see missing is personal responsibility.
Expect only what you pay for but feel free to negotiate more.
Know what your rights, not what you feel is "right".
Know your facts before you speak. (Like 85% of millionaires didn't inherit it)
Contribute to a true difference, not a scene.
My apologies for getting a bit OT. I would just like to be a voice of caution. Let's be sure we know if and who the dragon is before trying to vanquish it.

willgill said:
Nakel, you may have missed my point. All this ranting and raving without fact checking and knowing legal rights is just whining. Instead, I recommend true action.
Occupiers, by definition, are just taking up space. They change nothing other than kill park grass, leave filth, not to mention the rapes, drug deaths and deficating on cop cars. And no... I'm not making that up. Google it. That's the wrong message.
Actually what I see missing is personal responsibility.
Expect only what you pay for but feel free to negotiate more.
Know what your rights, not what you feel is "right".
Know your facts before you speak. (Like 85% of millionaires didn't inherit it)
Contribute to a true difference, not a scene.
My apologies for getting a bit OT. I would just like to be a voice of caution. Let's be sure we know if and who the dragon is before trying to vanquish it.
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I am with you, willgill, though I have no desire to argue or reason with "grab your pitchforks and torches" mob. I do find it curious however, that this mob's anger is rather selective. They get all worked up over CIQ yet say absolutely nothing about legalized rape that is SMS fees. They worry about a cell phone watching their every step while they are already being watched and tracked, EVERYWHERE. Your ISP already monitors your web traffic. Your bank already monitors your transactions. Your supermarket, gas station, restaurant already watch you like a hawk. Your cable and satellite provides and TV networks already watch you watching TV. Every time you input a pin code in ATM, click on TV remote, write an email - you are being watched and recorded.
So relax and sleep well tonight, my fellow xda'ers. Big Brother is not only watching you; he's also watching over you. If you wish to stick with your fears and superstitions, be my guest, but please do wear a tinfoil hat while you're outside, so I can identify and avoid you.

Intriguing commentary and food for thought.
"IF" CIQ is logging your SMS, would the same people incensed by that also be livid if their cell company couldn't retrieve their texts logs for evidence in a court case?
I've seen several court cases where text message records were admitted as evidence. So people want texts archived if it benefits them but on the other hand NOT recorded?
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OTA Update Gives more Bloatware

47MB and gave me yellow pages as well as lookout. I already use lookout but WTF ATT? Bloatware was already a problem but you're actually shoving more down my throat?
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abraxo said:
47MB and gave me yellow pages as well as lookout. I already use lookout but WTF ATT? Bloatware was already a problem but you're actually shoving more down my throat?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/updat...ls-more-apps-you-whether-you-want-them-or-not
Yup just got my update before I read this SCREW YOU AT&T

I haven't updated any firmware or security policies. I'm perfectly fine staying as is

The two apps can be disabled, so no biggie to me. There does seems to be at least one bug fix. My recent apps button was a little wonky. It is fixed now.

I hope there isnt something in the update that further prevents root being achieved. If you go to att website there is no way to prevent update either.
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB424084&cv=820#fbid=Vm6VYAFaBld

I just updated. Can someone who hasn't post their about device screen with the kernel and baseband and build info?
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mobilehavoc said:
I just updated. Can someone who hasn't post their about device screen with the kernel and baseband and build info?
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Here you go.

Thanks. New kernel, baseband and build. Took 5 seconds to disable the apps. Happy camper
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AT&T marketing Geniuses....not!
More apps to disable because AT&T must think it's funny to push bloatware OTA and label it as an update. Seriously what are they thinking?
Is there actually some marketing strategist that is so out of touch with the real world as to think that people want this crap?
It boggles the mind really that senior leadership and marketing does not troll XDA for ideas that would actually help them succeed in product management.
The 1st carrier to the gate with a device that comes with nothing but vanilla android, is not boot locked, or in any other way hindered for root would (I predict) gain a 10% market share inside of 30 days. Business 101....cater to the majority ESPECIALLY when no one else is. fu***** idiots!!! Do they not realize that we all may enjoy different apps, but that is what the app marketplace is for? Some my even want At&t's apps ( lol ) but they need to put them on the play store and let people choose. You know...democracy and all that. Maybe they think that their apps give them a leg up on their competition? Really? Seriously? An app is going to make the difference of someone choosing AT&T S5 over Verizon S5? OMG please tell me they are not stupid. (I'm long winded and redundant due to hoping De La Vega is reading this btw) Evidently they need things spelled out. I certainly hope he realizes that most normal people make carrier decisions based on price of service, coverage, speed of 4G, etc. You know; that business 101 thing again. Hey Mr. Vega; how many people do you have writing code for AT&T apps? What are you spending on that? What are you paying that marketing jack ass that told you to hire people to write code for AT&T specific apps and bloatware? I hope you get where I'm going here. My God man, take a breath, sit back, clear your mind of all the hype and confusion of the bubble your in and look at this thing from the outside. Get back to the basics and provide a product and service that people want. We dont want or need to have to take the lessor of the evils (context of who has less bloat if we want a new device). Dont believe me? Attempt to find 0.1% of your customers that just has to have one of your bundled apps. Let me know how that goes for you. In the mean time the other 99.9% of us will only be getting more frustrated.
At any rate here is some contact info for At&t. I suggest we flood them with emails and try to get directly to "ATTN. Randall L. Stephenson, Ralph De La Vega"
[email protected]
[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
https://twitter.com/ATTCustomerCare

bailey37821 said:
More apps to disable because AT&T must think it's funny to push bloatware OTA and label it as an update. Seriously what are they thinking?
Is there actually some marketing strategist that is so out of touch with the real world as to think that people want this crap?
It boggles the mind really that senior leadership and marketing does not troll XDA for ideas that would actually help them succeed in product management.
The 1st carrier to the gate with a device that comes with nothing but vanilla android, is not boot locked, or in any other way hindered for root would (I predict) gain a 10% market share inside of 30 days. Business 101....cater to the majority ESPECIALLY when no one else is. fu***** idiots!!!
At any rate here is some contact info for At&t. I suggest we flood them with emails and try to get directly to "ATTN. Randall L. Stephenson, Ralph De La Vega"
[email protected]
[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
https://twitter.com/ATTCustomerCare
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You do realize the people on XDA are the minority right? We're definitely not the general population. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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mobilehavoc said:
You do realize the people on XDA are the minority right? We're definitely not the general population. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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True in the literal sense that "people on XDA". I beg to differ though in that the general majority people would not want things shoved down their throat. All people want choice over the carriers take it or leave it attitude. In addition more and more people are becoming aware of what used to be only "for geeks". My 68 year old father for instance is fully aware of the advantages of having less apps taking up more storage and/or running in the background eating up ram and battery life when he has no need for most of them. The statement "if I wanted them loaded and running I should be able to choose that for myself" or something along those lines is growing among even the "non techies". And lets face it; I would bet that most people on XDA are the defacto come to people in their families for advice on all things electronic. Therefore even a minority can have a large effect on the majority.
BTW, I have no bubble to burst. My age, maturity, and I.Q. puts me well beyond trivial things like that.

mobilehavoc said:
You do realize the people on XDA are the minority right? We're definitely not the general population. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Exactly. Any company that followed the wishes/preferences of those on XDA would be out of business soon.

GeorgeP said:
Exactly. Any company that followed the wishes/preferences of those on XDA would be out of business soon.
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As above. Your looking at the small picture. Those wishes and preferences are not only those of XDA.
It's almost laughable that you are saying that a company that eliminates bloatware and possibly gives an opportunity for root would be out of business soon.
A very small example would be the fact that people are flocking to a carrier with substantially less coverage and reliability (T-Mo) because of wifi calling. A feature that AT&T and Verizon eliminated for seemingly no reason. Why? because a handful of people out of 10's of thousands might only use the device for free wifi calls versus buying service from them? How many people are going to buy a high end device averaging 650.00 to do that with? So your telling me that if AT&T released an update tomorrow that allowed easy rooting or at least got rid of bloatware and turned on wifi calling, that people would not flock to AT&T? Big picture...

bailey37821 said:
As above. Your looking at the small picture. Those wishes and preferences are not only those of XDA.
It's almost laughable that you are saying that a company that eliminates bloatware and possibly gives an opportunity for root would be out of business soon.
A very small example would be the fact that people are flocking to a carrier with substantially less coverage and reliability (T-Mo) because of wifi calling. A feature that AT&T and Verizon eliminated for seemingly no reason. Why? because a handful of people out of 10's of thousands might only use the device for free wifi calls versus buying service from them? How many people are going to buy a high end device averaging 650.00 to do that with? So your telling me that if AT&T released an update tomorrow that allowed easy rooting or at least got rid of bloatware and turned on wifi calling, that people would not flock to AT&T? Big picture...
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OnePlus One is the closest thing to an XDA dream phone. Let's see how well it does.
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mobilehavoc said:
OnePlus One is the closest thing to an XDA dream phone. Let's see how well it does.
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There are a few out actually. The biggest issue is they are all pay retail upfront. I am specifically speaking to the fact of major carriers increasing their market share / customer base and customer loyalty through standard channels and current business practices and plans offered.
But i'll bite anyway. Lets look at Oppo. A Chinese company started on a shoe string budget and prayer mostly. I don't have the time or the room to fully explain all the numbers, but suffice it to say that if they were in America they would have set or broke dozens of records concerning initial interest, market share versus time in market, profitability, units sold, % increase in sales versus time, net worth versus initial valuation, etc, etc...
And that was for full price units from an unknown Chinese company in a market full of unknown Chinese companies that all have a low initial trust rating. Multiply their numbers X 1000 for a trusted US carrier to do anything similar with a hot trusted device
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Where do you think the one plus came from. That would be from the former VP of OPPO of course. He saw those numbers for the N1 and the Find and knew you don't have to be a marketing guru to see the obvious. He left a lot of money and an incredible future with Oppo to help bring out the one plus.

bailey37821 said:
More apps to disable because AT&T must think it's funny to push bloatware OTA and label it as an update. Seriously what are they thinking?
Is there actually some marketing strategist that is so out of touch with the real world as to think that people want this crap?
It boggles the mind really that senior leadership and marketing does not troll XDA for ideas that would actually help them succeed in product management.
The 1st carrier to the gate with a device that comes with nothing but vanilla android, is not boot locked, or in any other way hindered for root would (I predict) gain a 10% market share inside of 30 days. Business 101....cater to the majority ESPECIALLY when no one else is. fu***** idiots!!! Do they not realize that we all may enjoy different apps, but that is what the app marketplace is for? Some my even want At&t's apps ( lol ) but they need to put them on the play store and let people choose. You know...democracy and all that. Maybe they think that their apps give them a leg up on their competition? Really? Seriously? An app is going to make the difference of someone choosing AT&T S5 over Verizon S5? OMG please tell me they are not stupid. (I'm long winded and redundant due to hoping De La Vega is reading this btw) Evidently they need things spelled out. I certainly hope he realizes that most normal people make carrier decisions based on price of service, coverage, speed of 4G, etc. You know; that business 101 thing again. Hey Mr. Vega; how many people do you have writing code for AT&T apps? What are you spending on that? What are you paying that marketing jack ass that told you to hire people to write code for AT&T specific apps and bloatware? I hope you get where I'm going here. My God man, take a breath, sit back, clear your mind of all the hype and confusion of the bubble your in and look at this thing from the outside. Get back to the basics and provide a product and service that people want. We dont want or need to have to take the lessor of the evils (context of who has less bloat if we want a new device). Dont believe me? Attempt to find 0.1% of your customers that just has to have one of your bundled apps. Let me know how that goes for you. In the mean time the other 99.9% of us will only be getting more frustrated.
At any rate here is some contact info for At&t. I suggest we flood them with emails and try to get directly to "ATTN. Randall L. Stephenson, Ralph De La Vega"
[email protected]
[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
https://twitter.com/ATTCustomerCare
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Haha wow. Not even sure where to start. For one it's a numbers game, throw the apps out there and maybe %10 will use it, maybe even %1. That's still more people putting money in their pocket than previously. Most of the users don't care about bloatware, if anything they view it as ATT offering them more than they got originally and at most a minor annoyance. So long as it doesn't brick their device they don't care, at most they just won't use it. The idea that "if you want it then find it on the market, and then choose ours over the competition" is just silly, why leave it to chance when you can increase your odds by putting your app on their phone directly in their face? %99.9 of users are frustrated by the addition of more bloatware or are infuriated by having it at all? we all know that's not even close to true, I've never heard a friend complain that the update to their phone added more apps. If you really think any of the higher-ups are reading your rant you're delusional. Go ahead and spam them, and again if you really think that goes directly to their inbox, you're delusional. Sure it will be addressed by someone, but it won't be any of the higher ups your trying to contact. Do you really think they're tech savvy enough to even know what you're talking about? They're put in place because they know how to manage multi-billion dollar companies, not because they know the ins and outs of a cell phone.
bailey37821 said:
True in the literal sense that "people on XDA". I beg to differ though in that the general majority people would not want things shoved down their throat. All people want choice over the carriers take it or leave it attitude. In addition more and more people are becoming aware of what used to be only "for geeks". My 68 year old father for instance is fully aware of the advantages of having less apps taking up more storage and/or running in the background eating up ram and battery life when he has no need for most of them. The statement "if I wanted them loaded and running I should be able to choose that for myself" or something along those lines is growing among even the "non techies". And lets face it; I would bet that most people on XDA are the defacto come to people in their families for advice on all things electronic. Therefore even a minority can have a large effect on the majority.
BTW, I have no bubble to burst. My age, maturity, and I.Q. puts me well beyond trivial things like that.
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"shoved down their throats" is a bit of an exaggeration. They load the app on the phones, it's not like it cripples the device or stops the device from functioning unless you use it. The S5 is still a rockstar even with the bloat. I do concur that most of us here are probably the people that relatives/family go to for phone advice. However guarantee neither of my parents or any relative for that matter would care about a phone having bloatware. They want a phone that will serve a purpose and maybe they can play some games on it.
bailey37821 said:
As above. Your looking at the small picture. Those wishes and preferences are not only those of XDA.
It's almost laughable that you are saying that a company that eliminates bloatware and possibly gives an opportunity for root would be out of business soon.
A very small example would be the fact that people are flocking to a carrier with substantially less coverage and reliability (T-Mo) because of wifi calling. A feature that AT&T and Verizon eliminated for seemingly no reason. Why? because a handful of people out of 10's of thousands might only use the device for free wifi calls versus buying service from them? How many people are going to buy a high end device averaging 650.00 to do that with? So your telling me that if AT&T released an update tomorrow that allowed easy rooting or at least got rid of bloatware and turned on wifi calling, that people would not flock to AT&T? Big picture...
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They are protecting their assets. The more options you have to use a competing service the more money they lose. reduce the ability to use the competitor and you rid yourself of that chance.
That all being said I am not a fan of bloatware, at all. Nor am I agreeing with their tactics. But step into reality. They want to maximize profits and get their users to use their apps so it can be billed to them.
I do have another theory for how much the phones are locked down these days. If anyone has followed the news; they're trying to head off phone thefts, they've spiraled out of control. Easiest way to prevent someone from stealing a phone? make sure that even if it is stolen, it can't be used anywhere because it's locked down like fort knox (pun sort of intended )
Sorry for any feathers i've ruffled.

To get back on track this update has made the phone smoother and have noticed no lag where there used to be lag before. Battery life seems better too so far.
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No OTA method (so far)
mobilehavoc said:
To get back on track this update has made the phone smoother and have noticed no lag where there used to be lag before. Battery life seems better too so far.
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I read the AT&T update page- what i can offer. I didn't accept the last weeks security certificate and I've been going into Running apps and stopping the AT&T OTA update process on any reboot(it doesn't seem to auto-restart) and I have not gotten any alerts or been pushed the OTA since.
I'll update if this changes.

Updated and lost my s health data. All my steps lost ?

I never get any alerts and i agree to security certificates. Also i did not update yet just want to if we can revert back with Odin or if can use Kies to get back ?

Really interesting book on life - "The Present"

Is anyone here into spirituality? Philosophy?
Having a spiritual side on me always helped me concentrate outside and inside my work. It helped me while I was still in CS college as well...
Anyway, found a really interesting free ebook on it. Here's a quote:
Immortality: "It is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious."
It is not possible to be aware of being unconscious from your own perspective. You cannot be aware of not being aware. You can be less aware/conscious, such as when you are asleep, but not completely unconscious (dead), because time would stand still for you. A billion years could pass, and you would not know it.
How do you know you are dead? It is not possible to be aware of any gaps in life; it is continuous and never-ending from your own point of view.
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excerpt from The Present at truthcontest.com
So, what do you guys think about it? Bullcrap or nay? Let's discuss it.

Currently reading the Book Rich dad, Poor Dad.

Semantics really.
The definition of unconscious obviously makes it impossible to be aware of it while it is happening. That's like saying "you cannot see during the time that you are blind."
Really it would be more about what conciousness really is, where it came from, and what happens before and after you die, but your actual quote I guess implies that there is no such thing as true unconsciousness, which point I would agree with.

Custom ROM stripped of GApps and keeps S-Pen functionality?

I swear I read a thread about this very thing a few months back. Is anyone aware of a de-Googled ROM that keeps all/Most s-pen functions?
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there is no (good) aosp / google rom out there

spen functionalities are only on touchwiz roms. i guess google apps could be stripped easily by the devs. removing or freezing them can easily be done by the end user, alot of apps allows a user to do this. usually it is the samsung stuff that is widely removed by devs.

bober10113 said:
spen functionalities are only on touchwiz roms. i guess google apps could be stripped easily by the devs. removing or freezing them can easily be done by the end user, alot of apps allows a user to do this. usually it is the samsung stuff that is widely removed by devs.
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I don't want to just disable, I want the whole framework gone. I'm currently on Nexus 6P running CopperheadOS, and I want to continue to have my system google free. Losing some bloatware is good too. I get what I need through F-Droid, a side load a few as necessary.
Anyway, I'll keep researching. I'm in no rush to replace my phone. I really like the Note, but I don't want to lose the greatness of the S-Pen...
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Why?

stewa2jm said:
I don't want to just disable, I want the whole framework gone. I'm currently on Nexus 6P running CopperheadOS, and I want to continue to have my system google free. Losing some bloatware is good too. I get what I need through F-Droid, a side load a few as necessary.
Anyway, I'll keep researching. I'm in no rush to replace my phone. I really like the Note, but I don't want to lose the greatness of the S-Pen...
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Have you taken a look at BK Disabler? It allows you to uninstall as well. Stripping the OS will be very difficult unless you went AOSP.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Why?
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Because I don't do Google, Apple, or Microsoft. I don't trust their policies and congress doesn't care to protect our personal data. They mine a ton of our data and make profit off of it, don't give us an opt out or opt in, and still charge is a premium anyway? No thank you.
You asked and I answered. Also, I don't care hear anyone's opinion otherwise, this is my opinion and you have yours. Let's leave it at that.
Jammol said:
Have you taken a look at BK Disabler? It allows you to uninstall as well. Stripping the OS will be very difficult unless you went AOSP.
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I'm fine with AOSP + Samsung whatever to keep the S-Pen. In all honesty, I have little hope for something functional like I want and do not have the skill to create my own ROMs at this point.
I'm also not going to pay the ridiculous amount CopperheadOS is charging for there Pixel devices. So, I'll likely go with a different android phone running AOSP and do the other security work myself... Albeit, slowly.
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stewa2jm said:
Because I don't do Google, Apple, or Microsoft. I don't trust their policies and congress doesn't care to protect our personal data. They mine a ton of our data and make profit off of it, don't give us an opt out or opt in, and still charge is a premium anyway? No thank you.
You asked and I answered. Also, I don't care hear anyone's opinion otherwise, this is my opinion and you have yours. Let's leave it at that.
I'm fine with AOSP + Samsung whatever to keep the S-Pen. In all honesty, I have little hope for something functional like I want and do not have the skill to create my own ROMs at this point.
I'm also not going to pay the ridiculous amount CopperheadOS is charging for there Pixel devices. So, I'll likely go with a different android phone running AOSP and do the other security work myself... Albeit, slowly.
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I thought CopperheadOS was also available as a custom Rom?

Jammol said:
I thought CopperheadOS was also available as a custom Rom?
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It was for Nexus 5x & 6P. Starting with Pixel you have to buy the device from them. I don't think they've started on Pixel 2 yet. They tack on like $300 or something.
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stewa2jm said:
Because I don't do Google, Apple, or Microsoft. I don't trust their policies and congress doesn't care to protect our personal data. They mine a ton of our data and make profit off of it, don't give us an opt out or opt in, and still charge is a premium anyway? No thank you.
You asked and I answered. Also, I don't care hear anyone's opinion otherwise, this is my opinion and you have yours. Let's leave it at that.
I'm fine with AOSP + Samsung whatever to keep the S-Pen. In all honesty, I have little hope for something functional like I want and do not have the skill to create my own ROMs at this point.
I'm also not going to pay the ridiculous amount CopperheadOS is charging for there Pixel devices. So, I'll likely go with a different android phone running AOSP and do the other security work myself... Albeit, slowly.
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Wow. Little touchy, are we? Samsung makes a very nice flip phone. Even comes with a free tinfoil hat.

Saafir said:
Jason Bourne?
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Ha ha. Not even close.
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Wow. Little touchy, are we? Samsung makes a very nice flip phone. Even comes with a free tinfoil hat.
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Not touchy at all. People just love to spout opinions and tell people to wear tinfoil hats under the guise of the anonymous internet when they wouldn't have the guts to do it IRL. It gets old quick. I respect we all have opinions, so keep yours to yourself unless asked for.
Simply put, I just care about my digital data and if anyone is going to make money off of it, it should be me, or I should be given a discount on products for a companies profits on the data said products take from me.
I could get all political, bit this isn't the place. So keep your comments about tinfoil hats to yourself.
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stewa2jm said:
Ha ha. Not even close.
Not touchy at all. People just love to spout opinions and tell people to wear tinfoil hats under the guise of the anonymous internet when they wouldn't have the guts to do it IRL. It gets old quick. I respect we all have opinions, so keep yours to yourself unless asked for.
Simply put, I just care about my digital data and if anyone is going to make money off of it, it should be me, or I should be given a discount on products for a companies profits on the data said products take from me.
I could get all political, bit this isn't the place. So keep your comments about tinfoil hats to yourself.
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All I asked was why. You couldve answered without getting hateful and telling people to keep their opinions to themselves. I just asked a simple question, you made assumptions about me, so you earned the tinfoil hat comment. Don't pick a fight, then get upset when one starts.
Maybe you shoyld loosen up your tinfoil hat a bit. I think its wrapped too tight.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
All I asked was why. You couldve answered without getting hateful and telling people to keep their opinions to themselves. I just asked a simple question, you made assumptions about me, so you earned the tinfoil hat comment. Don't pick a fight, then get upset when one starts.
Maybe you shoyld loosen up your tinfoil hat a bit. I think its wrapped too tight.
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Look asshat, the world isn't about you, but clearly you think it is. The comment was geared toward the inevitable troll. But you valiantly came through as the troll in true ashattery fashion and did exactly as expected. Congrats, you're a turd.
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stewa2jm said:
Look asshat, the world isn't about you, but clearly you think it is. The comment was geared toward the inevitable troll. But you valiantly came through as the troll in true ashattery fashion and did exactly as expected. Congrats, you're a turd.
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Thanks! I'm honored! I worked realky hard. The fact that I was able to bother you THIS MUCH through the internet makes me feel truly accomplished. You have lifted my spirits and encouraged me for the rest of the day. Gosh, what an honor.
LOLOLOLOLOL.

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Thanks! I'm honored! I worked realky hard. The fact that I was able to bother you THIS MUCH through the internet makes me feel truly accomplished. You have lifted my spirits and encouraged me for the rest of the day. Gosh, what an honor.
LOLOLOLOLOL.
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You, sir, are most welcome.
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stewa2jm said:
Because I don't do Google, Apple, or Microsoft. I don't trust their policies and congress doesn't care to protect our personal data. They mine a ton of our data and make profit off of it, don't give us an opt out or opt in, and still charge is a premium anyway? No thank you.
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WOW! Who cares... I knew Google was an ad company when they started as a search browser in the 90's. Not a big secret. It's how they make money. You got something to hide? And how to they charge you a premium. Google apps and services are free when you buy a phone. You are just a conspiracy theorist. You need to unplug for a while...

Gizmoe said:
WOW! Who cares... I knew Google was an ad company when they started as a search browser in the 90's. Not a big secret. It's how they make money. You got something to hide? And how to they charge you a premium. Google apps and services are free when you buy a phone. You are just a conspiracy theorist. You need to unplug for a while...
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They are an advertising company. That I do not dispute. The premium I speak of is on their devices, not on their free software. And no, not a conspiracy theorist. It is simple fact that they suck up as much data as they can to make profit from said data. A business model I'm not against if I had choice in the matter. I believe that our data should be ours be default, and then we OPT IN to have it taken for their profit. If we opt in, we should get a discount on devices. Hence, why I strip all the data sucking out of my phones and do my own thing. It's a matter of simply opinion. As I noted much earlier, I don't care to hear your thoughts on my opinions. I didn't ask, so if you don't have any answers or help to give, go find another thread to troll.

stewa2jm said:
They are an advertising company. That I do not dispute. The premium I speak of is on their devices, not on their free software. And no, not a conspiracy theorist. It is simple fact that they suck up as much data as they can to make profit from said data. A business model I'm not against if I had choice in the matter. I believe that our data should be ours be default, and then we OPT IN to have it taken for their profit. If we opt in, we should get a discount on devices. Hence, why I strip all the data sucking out of my phones and do my own thing. It's a matter of simply opinion. As I noted much earlier, I don't care to hear your thoughts on my opinions. I didn't ask, so if you don't have any answers or help to give, go find another thread to troll.
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You could use a non Google email and just never sign in on your device. The apps would be there but they wouldn't do much. As long as Google services never has your email from a fresh setup you could stick to just the Samsung eco system. There is no way to completely strip out the Google framework even if you did remove all their apps. They make android so they kind of got it cornered.

Gizmoe said:
You could use a non Google email and just never sign in on your device. The apps would be there but they wouldn't do much. As long as Google services never has your email from a fresh setup you could stick to just the Samsung eco system. There is no way to completely strip out the Google framework even if you did remove all their apps. They make android so they kind of got it cornered.
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I really like the "cleanliness" (if you will) of an AOSP rom. My partner has a Galaxy S7 Edge, and Samsung's overlay is much better than previous iterations, so that I could handle. She really likes the phone too, and she's hard to please with phones.
However, it just seems that what I'm finding is that the NOTE 8 is probably not the phone that will meet my desires. I really like the design and functionality of the S-Pen, but it isn't essential. Time will tell. I'm not in a particular rush, so the search continues.

stewa2jm said:
I really like the "cleanliness" (if you will) of an AOSP rom. My partner has a Galaxy S7 Edge, and Samsung's overlay is much better than previous iterations, so that I could handle. She really likes the phone too, and she's hard to please with phones.
However, it just seems that what I'm finding is that the NOTE 8 is probably not the phone that will meet my desires. I really like the design and functionality of the S-Pen, but it isn't essential. Time will tell. I'm not in a particular rush, so the search continues.
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Yeah I know what you mean about aosp. That would be cool to have the best of the Samsung experience and aosp combined. I have found myself preferring Samsung apps over their Google counterparts.

Redmi Note 7 Tips and Tricks, First 10 Things To Do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZG6qUU8ak
After you have run through the initial setup of your new Redmi Note 7 here are a few things you should do first on the Note 7.

I do two things,set gps to battery saving, and in developers options set limit proces to three instead of standard. I notice that battery last longer

tze_vitamin said:
I do two things,set gps to battery saving, and in developers options set limit proces to three instead of standard. I notice that battery last longer
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How much 'longer', after you set it up to three?

i do 2 things first
1) look for twrp official
2) look for pixel experience
oh wow, NEITHER are available for this device 6 months after its released :victory:

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How much 'longer', after you set it up to three?
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For me and my phone usage..day and a half.. with playing , gaming , YouTube, data usage..social networks..
But it will a little slow down your phone.. because every app you open ,is closed ..and..takes a little time to open it.. because its not in proces..so..

AndrewChan99 said:
i do 2 things first
1) look for twrp official
2) look for pixel experience
oh wow, NEITHER are available for this device 6 months after its released :victory:
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Yeah how about you build your own ROM. Be patience. Developers are doing it if they felt like doing it. Stop barking if this phones never gets Pixel Experience ROM. Also this phone just came out for some places officially

khaidirkahi said:
Yeah how about you build your own ROM. Be patience. Developers are doing it if they felt like doing it. Stop barking if this phones never gets Pixel Experience ROM. Also this phone just came out for some places officially
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please don't get upset at me. i am very patient for 6 months - maybe you can build us pixel experience, you seem to have alot to say, stay calm i am sure we will get something custom by 2030. :fingers-crossed:

AndrewChan99 said:
please don't get upset at me. i am very patient for 6 months - maybe you can build us pixel experience, you seem to have alot to say, stay calm i am sure we will get something custom by 2030. :fingers-crossed:
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You're here on this forum since just one month and you really think you can complain about not having your new toy and scream about it ? If you're not happy with what devs give us FOR FREE... what are you doing here ? do u understand words like "community", "free work" and "sharing" ? i guess no.
Please, with all respect, do not respond, you will just look more stupid (if it's even possible).

Not releasing source code isn't sharing ?

AndrewChan99 said:
please don't get upset at me. i am very patient for 6 months - maybe you can build us pixel experience, you seem to have alot to say, stay calm i am sure we will get something custom by 2030. :fingers-crossed:
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You are a living example of what is wrong with this community and how much better it used to be. A lot of cocky ungrateful brats these days, acting like people owe them anything lol. Well here is the truth, no one owes you **** here buddy, so stop crying and whining, or as another user already said, build the rom yourself if you are so smartass. Also, you seem to have big problems with maths, because this device was released february 28. So its not even 3months old yet lmao. Just stop talking nonsense please, no one likes or appreciates your attitude in this forum.

Plekst said:
You are a living example of what is wrong with this community and how much better it used to be. A lot of cocky ungrateful brats these days, acting like people owe them anything lol. Well here is the truth, no one owes you **** here buddy, so stop crying and whining, or as another user already said, build the rom yourself if you are so smartass. Also, you seem to have big problems with maths, because this device was released february 28. So its not even 3months old yet lmao. Just stop talking nonsense please, no one likes or appreciates your attitude in this forum.
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You know, a couple of you guys aren't exactly helping the mood or fostering the feeling of community. I'm being blunt, not trying to continue the attacks. Folks that have been around for a while are right to keep the new people and haters in check, no doubt we need that, but jumping all over someone when he wasn't really begging, complaining about anyone in particular, or being especially rude, is a bigger problem - this turns new people off. The "old" members seem to get pissy a little too quick and a little too often, don't you think? We don't need XDA becoming 4chan/Android or the Twitter of development - we're all better than that.
I took his comment simply as frustration, and he was not incorrect, except he had the date wrong - and you seem to be aware of that, so cut him some slack, please. When you treat newer and less experienced people the exact same way you ask them NOT to act, they tend to go away rather than learn and eventually contribute to the community, and we need all the new help we can get. I'm sure I've been present in the Android ROM community for longer than anyone in this thread (2009, HTC Dream), and I don't stoop to personal attacks here (I save it for Reddit, LOL), so I'll kindly ask you all to stick to constructive comments. I'm sure you're all smart enough to point out to people where they've gone wrong without being twice as rude as them, right?
I'll go back to lurking now, and hope the Redmi Note 7 community here is a little nicer and more helpful than some of the devices I've been researching here lately. It used to be legitimately fun. Shout out to @owenbeals for getting the ball rolling on what should be a fun and insightful thread. Let's get it back on track.
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emepher said:
You know, a couple of you guys aren't exactly helping the mood or fostering the feeling of community. I'm being blunt, not trying to continue the attacks. Folks that have been around for a while are right to keep the new people and haters in check, no doubt we need that, but jumping all over someone when he wasn't really begging, complaining about anyone in particular, or being especially rude, is a bigger problem - this turns new people off. The "old" members seem to get pissy a little too quick and a little too often, don't you think? We don't need XDA becoming 4chan/Android or the Twitter of development - we're all better than that.
I took his comment simply as frustration, and he was not incorrect, except he had the date wrong - and you seem to be aware of that, so cut him some slack, please. When you treat newer and less experienced people the exact same way you ask them NOT to act, they tend to go away rather than learn and eventually contribute to the community, and we need all the new help we can get. I'm sure I've been present in the Android ROM community for longer than anyone in this thread (2009, HTC Dream), and I don't stoop to personal attacks here (I save it for Reddit, LOL), so I'll kindly ask you all to stick to constructive comments. I'm sure you're all smart enough to point out to people where they've gone wrong without being twice as rude as them, right?
I'll go back to lurking now, and hope the Redmi Note 7 community here is a little nicer and more helpful than some of the devices I've been researching here lately. It used to be legitimately fun. Shout out to @owenbeals for getting the ball rolling on what should be a fun and insightful thread. Let's get it back on track.
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First thing I do on any Android phone or tablet: Install Nova Launcher. I like how it works, I can easily set things up the way I'm used to having them, and it works reliably and smoothly.
For the Redmi Note 7, I went ahead and used my previous/existing phone to set things up more or less automatically, which I had not had great luck with in the past but worked very well to install my apps and whatnot. I did choose to restore my Nova settings from a backup saved to my Google drive, which worked, too.
I also install Textra immediately, and this time I didn't even bother trying Xiaomi's stock messaging app, because I like Textra that much. And I turned off auto brightness, because I never agree with it on what is the correct setting for any given environment.
What else, besides case and screen protector? I know, Gorilla Glass 5, but it can still scratch, and even a cheap slim case can help a phone survive the drops I'm sure to put it through. For the cheap price, I was tempted to go "naked," just to keep it slim and simple, but that's a recipe for disaster with my butter fingers.
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Sorry but your post is wayyy too long to finish. I did read the first paragraph tho. And no, i dont feel like i did anything wrong here. He is rude, entitled and ungrateful person, thats a fact. No one likes his attitude here, thats also a fact. And its not only about this comment, if you look at his profile, hes a new member, whos all posts are the same, crying and whining and criticizing devs for not delivering his favourite rom like they owe him that. LOL. So yeah, im gonna stay with my words.

First thing I do on any Android phone or tablet: Install Nova Launcher. I like how it works, I can easily set things up the way I'm used to having them, and it works reliably and smoothly.
For the Redmi Note 7, I went ahead and used my previous/existing phone to set things up more or less automatically, which I had not had great luck with in the past but worked very well to install my apps and whatnot. I did choose to restore my Nova settings from a backup saved to my Google drive, which worked, too.
I also install Textra immediately, and this time I didn't even bother trying Xiaomi's stock messaging app, because I like Textra that much. And I turned off auto brightness, because I never agree with it on what is the correct setting for any given environment.
What else, besides case and screen protector? I know, Gorilla Glass 5, but it can still scratch, and even a cheap slim case can help a phone survive the drops I'm sure to put it through. For the cheap price, I was tempted to go "naked," just to keep it slim and simple, but that's a recipe for disaster with my butter fingers.
Next up is to unlock the boot loader, install TWRP, and try some ROMs. Big LOS fan, but I'll try any ROM that looks stable-ish.
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Sorry but your post is wayyy too long to finish. I did read the first paragraph tho. And no, i dont feel like i did anything wrong here. He is rude, entitled and ungrateful person, thats a fact. No one likes his attitude here, thats also a fact. And its not only about this comment, if you look at his profile, hes a new member, whos all posts are the same, crying and whining and criticizing devs for not delivering his favourite rom like they owe him that. LOL. So yeah, im gonna stay with my words.
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Okay, great, thanks for being so helpful and making my point for me.

wow i read all this and at the end of it checked twrp.me and guess what.. still nothing!
rofl, sorry if i sound impatient but yes i agree with emepher - you guys are very wound up over nothing, if i was someone who cared what you wannabe nerds had to say i would probably leave these forums straight away, sadly for you guys i will be around for eternity, haunting your souls. Lets all just relax and enjoy, who knows you might even learn something from me.

AndrewChan99 said:
wow i read all this and at the end of it checked twrp.me and guess what.. still nothing!
rofl, sorry if i sound impatient but yes i agree with emepher - you guys are very wound up over nothing, if i was someone who cared what you wannabe nerds had to say i would probably leave these forums straight away, sadly for you guys i will be around for eternity, haunting your souls. Lets all just relax and enjoy, who knows you might even learn something from me.
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But you said you gonna sell this device after 1 more week. So why lie? Lmao. You are pathetic atempt of a troll, everybody know you now, just gonna get ignored kiddo. Only thing we could potentially learn from you is being childish, self entitled, rude kiddo. Oh, and we could also learn broken math from you, because apparently its been over 6months since february 28 lmao.

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But you said you gonna sell this device after 1 more week. So why lie? Lmao. You are pathetic atempt of a troll, everybody know you now, just gonna get ignored kiddo. Only thing we could potentially learn from you is being childish, self entitled, rude kiddo. Oh, and we could also learn broken math from you, because apparently its been over 6months since february 28 lmao.
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i think i might love you

owenbeals said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZG6qUU8ak
After you have run through the initial setup of your new Redmi Note 7 here are a few things you should do first on the Note 7.
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Thanks for the link.