Should I buy a Liquid? - Liquid S100 General

So dear Liquid using XDA-members
I once again reached an obstacle in my life
Right now I am on a european 32a HTC Magic running Android 1.6 and I think its time to get some change
So I thought "why not buy a Liquid? Its fast, cheap and that notification bar on the top of the phone is too sexy to be ignored"
But before I buy it I really wanna know some things about it, and that is where you guys can help me
Android 2.1
So I've been seeing a lot of Liquid E leaks here and wanna know if they are stable enough for everyday use? 2.1 working would be something that could get me to order this phone now. Does the notification bar on the top work with 2.1 roms? Is 2.1 as fast as stock?
RAM
Is the low RAM ever an issue? I mean it have the same RAM as my HTC Magic, but yet again Nexus one have twice as much :I
Form factor
Does it feel too big? HTC Magic is 3.2 inch screen, and I'm afraid this will feel too cluncky in my pocket :I
Performance
Is it as fast as shown in the youtube videos? Does it have good battery life?
Please someone answer this before monday, so I can order it

1. It will
2.No probs with the ram... so far
3.Its just the same size as an iphone, feels a lil bit bigger
4.Its really fast!! Mostly in donut...bat life depends on ur usage

Hi, I recycled this thread because I found a shop offert on Acer Liquid A1 for 199€ and I thought that could be a good chance to change my HTC Polaris.
I would basicly use this phone for some internet browsing with 3G and wi-fi, you think is still a device worth of buying for that price?
Is 256MB of RAM good enough to run Froyo smootly without lag and hope to keep this device up to date with future android release?

No I doubt the liquid will get froyo. Or any other upgrades the specs seem too low for it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes. With Caveats.
No I doubt the liquid will get froyo. Or any other upgrades the specs seem too low for it.
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Actually, the Liquid* does support Froyo and quite well in fact. All depends on whether the MFG has decided to move on I guess, and unfortunately, I think they did.
You could take the plunge into custom ROMs. At your own risk of course.
(*no, I don't mean the E and the Ferrari - those have more RAM, and the Ferrari has a less underclocked proc IIRC. The Ferrari I think has an official 2.2, E is 2.1. But, I'm running a 2.2 ROM on my A1 right now... )

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Is 192 RAM a not enough?

I am planning on buying a HTC G1, but after I read that there is only 192mb RAM I decided to wait.
I have a few questions:
1. Can you make a swapfile on the G1?
2. Would there be a big speed/stability difference with 192 and 256 RAM?
3. How does 2.0/2.1 run compared to 1.6?
I will be using this as a PDA, not a phone and will be doing lots of gaming and web browsing on it.
Thank you,
~moonscapex
Buy a Nexus......
I would, but I can't afford one
moonscapex said:
I would, but I can't afford one
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save up for one. Don't get a g1, it's already too outdated. save up and buy a good phone that'll last a while. By the time you have the money tucked away I'm sure you'll see phones even better than the nexus one.
Yes, I already have a high-end winmo PDA, so I am looking for a lower end Android phone.
I agree with others that say to get a different phone. I love my G1 to death, but there's no way I'd buy one today if I were in the market. It's just too limited.
That said, I'll try and answer your questions.
1. Yes, running swap is possible using a rooted phone and custom ROM. It's debated whether this actually helps any.
2. The 192 vs. 256 MB difference helps a great deal. There's just not a lot of memory left to run many apps and do much task switching on the newer iterations of the OS with only 192MB. The number of apps you can install is also limited by this number (unless you're running a rooted phone and installing apps to your SD card.)
3. On a G1, 2.0/2.1 is pretty slow. At this point I wouldn't use it as a daily use ROM.
The two functions you listed as your primary activities are the two things that the G1 does the worst. It's underpowered for a lot of games (not to mention the horrible battery life when you start playing games) and browsing the web can be a chore given the limited memory and CPU. It works great for basic things like email, maps/navigation, music, productivity apps, but it's pretty slow for other stuff.
OK, thank you. That is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will look into some other phones.
The G1 is ideal for what your looking for. Man people love to drift off don't they
Yeah they do...
Has anyone else tried Android 2.1 on their G1?
If you root it, in addition to the debatable swapping to the SD for more ram and cache, you can overclock the things. Probably a bit hard on your battery and might generate unacceptable heat, don't know. You might just get it up to 2/3's to 3/4th's the speed of a Nexus for the cost of a bigger battery. Maybe then you could run 2.1 effectively. Who knows.
I'd buy it used. They go for about $175 on ebay unlocked. If you screw it up you've not lost that much. You can resell your broken one on ebay for about $75
Regards, PK
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Yeah they are
Personally
I preordered a G1... rooted it early in the beginnings of Haykuro and JF... and 16 months later I still say there isnt a replacement... I got a full upgrade and I still havent taken advantage... The N1 is nice, if you can live wo the hard keyboard... If you want a low end android, the G1 is a good starter phone...
I run both 2.1 and 1.6 roms.. The 1.6 roms are really fast, The 2.1 roms are worth having on your phone to show off... I can stream music on 3G from 8am to about 230-3pm at work on either so batt life is fine either way on a normal day...
I dont know what kind of gaming you do, but my old school emulators do the trick nicely run on any rom and with the hard keyboard controls are great... I use a ram hack that removes the 3d accelerator for another 8mb of usable ram, so I cant comment on 3d games...
Bricking a G1 is almost impossible now with all the good tutorials... the G1 is the easiest to root, hack, flash, customize... all that in my own eyes... Ive brought noobs down the rabbit hole and now they are cookin up roms and themes like crazy...
I on the other hand still patiently wait for a new bigger better stronger phone (with a hard keyboard) to replace my G1 and I know it will not be in the low end android bracket..
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Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
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My setiments exactly. Hate to say it but it's just fun to see or learn somthing new.
Good thread for Android noobes.
Regards, PK
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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Not really. You must replace the kernel, so it's basically just as complicated as reflashing.
I'ts simple.
Flash the boot.img and reboot.
All gone.
(and vice versa)
you wont loose any data or anything.

help me speed up my nexus

Hey so i had my nexus day one and it felt pretty fast but now after watching videos of the new samsung galaxy S and the new Motorola Droid X i feel like my phones just dragging itself along. mostly its on the homescreen when i swipe to go to the next page and it just doesnt feel as smooth. can you guys give me some tips to get things going a bit smoother. or is the nexus one just bound by hardware limitations. I'm on stock 2.1 unrooted AT&T nexus one. heres a video of the droid x just to put me down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixJR_QNibg
If you want a responsive launcher/homescreen, download LauncherPro Beta or ADW.Launcher from the market. Both are very snappy and offer a lot of features.
ADWLauncher
I don't know if you ready to root, if you do you can use cyanogenmod. For me it's a lot better than stock rom.
Don't use Live backgrounds!
I believe that a froyo rom with launcherpro is the speediest thing you can get.
I'm with cyanogen 5.0.8 + awdlauncher and i'm very happy with it. It's fast with benefits
most definently aint hardware. I meant what do the other phones I.E. Galaxy and droid x got in it to make it faster?
N1 is still a rocking phone and Im on froyo using Launcher Pro Beta and it flies. Definitly cany get any faster. Well it could but then Id miss infor it would go so fast. lol
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Don't use Live backgrounds!
I believe that a froyo rom with launcherpro is the speediest thing you can get.
I'm with cyanogen 5.0.8 + awdlauncher and i'm very happy with it. It's fast with benefits
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waiting for the official froyo for att nexus, if it doesnt come by july im gonna say F it. but youre right (( i was using awd previously, decided to try launcher pro, still sort of laggy. turned off my koi fish live wallpaper and the whole OS is fast as lightnight i miss my fish
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waiting for the official froyo for att nexus, if it doesnt come by july im gonna say F it. but youre right (( i was using awd previously, decided to try launcher pro, still sort of laggy. turned off my koi fish live wallpaper and the whole OS is fast as lightnight i miss my fish
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adw is cool. just seemed to kinda hang sometimes on the first swype from after being in a app. Just kinda takes a second then responds, then there after it responds fine. So I switched back to Launcher pro and hes got alot of options like ADW. I Personaly like Launcher Pro better.
But yea, I dont think the new phones have anything better except maybe a slightly better processor clocked at the same speed as the n1.
I see many people wanting the latest toy. I for one am done looking for a while. My n1 does everything I need it too and at a very fast speed. These phones coming out now still benchmark just around the n1.
I dont know. there all great phones coming out. But nothing to want to get rid of my n1 for. Ill wait for taxes and see whats out then..
wait for froyo, massive homescreen speed increase.
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most definently aint hardware. I meant what do the other phones I.E. Galaxy and droid x got in it to make it faster?
N1 is still a rocking phone and Im on froyo using Launcher Pro Beta and it flies. Definitly cany get any faster. Well it could but then Id miss infor it would go so fast. lol
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theyre saying the processor and gpu on the new samsung are really amazing image rendering is supposed to be a piece of cake for it
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
and i'd use launcherpro
thatg said:
theyre saying the processor and gpu on the new samsung are really amazing image rendering is supposed to be a piece of cake for it
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
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sounds impressive. But read the comments. Looks like some is made up.
Im sure itll perform well and maybe slightly better. But as far as what there saying.
its not gonna be too big of a deal. But its still a impressive device and If ya want a galaxy or droid x. There sweet phones. I just still dont see anything about it wanting me to ditch my n1. I honestly think Ill have this till next year.
Not only that but tmobile is not getting any android phones soon. N1 is it for me.
Conclusion. Sweet processor, but is it really all its cut out to be? only time will tell, even if not, its still a nice phone. Super Amoled? Awesome..
THIS DUDE SOUNDS LIKE HE KNOWS WHATS UP.
The whole article is full of trash data.
The iPhone 3GS puts out 7m triangles per second per GLBenchmark (Google “GLBenchmark iPhone 3GS” and click the 3D tab), which is a PowerVR SGX 520 at 200 Mhz or 530 at 100 Mhz.
Ofc the SGX 530 puts out 14 m triangles per second (twice the performance of the 520).
The Hummingbird doesn’t have an SGX 540, as it puts out only 28m triangles per second (twice the performance of the 530), not 90.
Ugh. Now this article is all over the internets and every iPhone 3GS user is feeling smug. Like we needed more of that.

Recommend me an Android Phone

Guys you can recommend me some good android as i am bored using windows mobile since 6 years.
I want a good capable android probably with Capacitive screen and a good camera, processor and ram. I am thinking of X10 is that a good phone.
Thanks
Eh, I hear lost of bad about the X10. Why not try the Desire or Nexus one? Possibly the Galaxy S even...
i'm using a htc desire ATM and no complaint from here, running it on froyo custom rom
the n1 is good running froyo custom rom on it as well
My bro brought htc tattoo but either he or me liked it much as WM phones.
Reason :
1. Its hard to find apps for android. I know there are lots of apps for android but see #2
2. Even if you find one, 99% it will be a barcode/qc code download or phone download link but no pc download link so you will need phone with GPRS or WIFI or 3G to download and install. This is hard for Indian users
3. You cannot use pc to phone internet via USB or not even bluetooth, like WM phones.
4. You cannot install apps on sd but only on mainmemory, thank god tattoo has enough memory ( 512mb )
I think these all related to all android phones.
As you wish but I prefer WM phone the most!
Best Regards
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My bro brought htc tattoo but either he or me liked it much as WM phones.
Reason :
1. Its hard to find apps for android. I know there are lots of apps for android but see #2
2. Even if you find one, 99% it will be a barcode/qc code download or phone download link but no pc download link so you will need phone with GPRS or WIFI or 3G to download and install. This is hard for Indian users
3. You cannot use pc to phone internet via USB or not even bluetooth, like WM phones.
4. You cannot install apps on sd but only on mainmemory, thank god tattoo has enough memory ( 512mb )
I think these all related to all android phones.
As you wish but I prefer WM phone the most!
Best Regards
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1. What? I seem to remember the Market app on Android that has plenty of applications to use.
3. Um, if he gets a new device: FroYo. If not, I've had tethering on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
4. FroYo, I've had it on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
I find your argument invalid.
Stick with xda support & a htc froyo device...
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1. What? I seem to remember the Market app on Android that has plenty of applications to use.
3. Um, if he gets a new device: FroYo. If not, I've had tethering on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
4. FroYo, I've had it on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
I find your argument invalid.
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Ah sorry I forgot to mention, I'm using official ROM on my tattoo and there are no updates for it.
May be the new versions doesn't have such issues. But for our tattoo owners. :'(
Yes there are lots of app but something doesn't suits me then WM apps downloads.
Anyways, sorry if I said anything or totally wrong.
Best Regards
Now i think nexus one or htc desire would be good. Only problem with nexus one is no capacitive screen. I like x10 also because of its 8 mp camera and all other features are same as nexus one, what say guyz i am confused now.
CRACING said:
Ah sorry I forgot to mention, I'm using official ROM on my tattoo and there are no updates for it.
May be the new versions doesn't have such issues. But for our tattoo owners. :'(
Yes there are lots of app but something doesn't suits me then WM apps downloads.
Anyways, sorry if I said anything or totally wrong.
Best Regards
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Ah, the tattoo. No wonder you like WM better with that phone, under-powered AND it has Sense.
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Now i think nexus one or htc desire would be good. Only problem with nexus one is no capacitive screen. I like x10 also because of its 8 mp camera and all other features are same as nexus one, what say guyz i am confused now.
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Nexus One has a capacitive screen...
Thumbs down for X10 from me.
No multitouch means no full speed typing on the soft keyboard.
Outdated Android OS version.
Very plastic and cheap build.
Timescape performance is laggy.
Wide reports of battery drain. Likely to be software related.
As of this moment, I think you've got a choice between the following:
Nexus One, Desire, Droid Incredible, Evo (depending on geographic location)
Galaxy S
Droid, Droid X
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Nexus One has a capacitive screen...
Thumbs down for X10 from me.
No multitouch means no full speed typing on the soft keyboard.
Outdated Android OS version.
Very plastic and cheap build.
Timescape performance is laggy.
Wide reports of battery drain. Likely to be software related.
As of this moment, I think you've got a choice between the following:
Nexus One, Desire, Droid Incredible, Evo (depending on geographic location)
Galaxy S
Droid, Droid X
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Nexus one doesn't have capacitive screen(Multi touch), i have checked it with pdadb.net and also on google official site
samy.3660 said:
Nexus one doesn't have capacitive screen(Multi touch), i have checked it with pdadb.net and also on google official site
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"Capacitive screen" doesn't necessarily equal "multi-touch".
For example, the X10 has a capacitive screen but it doesn't support multi-touch. It's because of the hardware. Regardless of what software updates Sony Ericsson rolls out, the X10 will not get multi-touch support.
However, the Nexus One does indeed have a capacitive screen. And the hardware supports multi-touch. In fact, it's the same screen as used in the HTC Desire. Whether or not multi-touch works, depends on the software. For example, it was mentioned in reviews that there's no multi-touch support right out the box; but certain applications like Dolphin Browser can utilize pinch-to-zoom.
So i think i have 2 options now samsung Galaxy S and Nexus one.
Which one to go for and Why, please??
Do you guys think it is worth going for motorola milestone, if i am getting it lot cheaper than nexus one. i think only drawback in milestone is slow processor and ram. Do you think 600mhz processor and 256 ram is not enough for new android builds like froyo or future one ginger bread??
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Do you guys think it is worth going for motorola milestone, if i am getting it lot cheaper than nexus one. i think only drawback in milestone is slow processor and ram. Do you think 600mhz processor and 256 ram is not enough for new android builds like froyo or future one ginger bread??
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Certainly the Droid/Milestone can handle Froyo since it's going to be officially released as an OTA update by Motorola. Not sure about Gingerbread though. There's not much information on that anywhere and there's conflicting reports on what are the minimum specs.
I'm not a fan of the Milestone/Droid, so I wouldn't recommend it. The hardware keyboard is a defining feature of the device and yet, it's so poorly designed and near unusable. But that's just my opinion; perhaps you're alright with it...

Is it a good idea to buy HTC Incredible S instead of HTC Desire?

Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Can you root it and put a custom ROM? If so, does the guide exist?
if you searched further than your nose long is, u had the answer on that
Really depends on what you want to do with the phone. The screen display is a lot better than desire. If you just wanna a phone to use, IS is the choice. If you are a fun of installing custom ROMs, desire is probably a better choice. As far as I know, software rooting is not available yet for IS.
if you are comparing stock to stock...
the major advantage of having an IS is the internal memory... on a fresh stock rom...
Desire would have around 147MB for you to use for all your apps.. and you have to spare 30MB for OTA updates purpose...
if you have IS you have 1.07GB on a fresh rom... so many apps you can install without any worries
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
Dual cores
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I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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At first I was looking at a dual core as well.
But after all I thought: what is the real benefit at the moment?
I mean, I don't call that much a month, use internet a lot, play some simple games, listen to music and that's it.
My Desire could handle all those things very good.
I must say that I'm very happy with my IS and I'm glad I didn't wait for a dual core.
Bear in mind the Desire has some issues with multi-touch, and battery life isn't particularly good. It is readily rootable however, while some variants of the Incredible S are not.
My friend had a Desire nd i have an IS ... Go for the IS no doubt.. so fat the issues i ve seen in multi touch . battery life, screen , speed ( cause of RAM ) .. IS wins hands down

[Q] SGS vs Desire S? Which to get? HELP!

Hi, im writing for a friend as he wants some advice.
he is choosing between both these smartphones (No others - as he can't afford newer ones, i.e - sgs2)
He is in a dilemna between the both.. he prefably wants a larger screen + better colours. but the desire s is newer, has a slightly better cpu etc.
Which one is better? Will the SGS get updated to gingerbread and beyond?
Which has better battery life in general? Is the SGS still a good phone even though it is 1 year old?
Thanks for responses!
This is a galaxy forum, so the answer from here is obvious! ;p
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This is a galaxy forum, so the answer from here is obvious! ;p
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yeh, haha i thought that would be the response. but perhaps some honest ppl who have had a sgs for a while can give my friend feedback on it and how the device is, whther it is worth it or the desire s.
If you are into rooting and running custom roms, then the sgs for definate
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If you are into rooting and running custom roms, then the sgs for definate
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thanks! But what if you are not for the average user... is the sgs good out of the box? personally my sgs 2 is good out of the box.. what about this? thanks!
Sgs is naff outa the box, laggy n crap, but v good once tweaked
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Galaxy S, of course
You can already flash gingerbread and there are lots of custom roms.
Using cm7, it's blazing fast and you can overclock it up to 1.5Ghz with some kernels (but most phones can only reach 1.4Ghz or 1.44Ghz stable, which is still a 40%+ overclock)
So if you wanted a better cpu... well the cpu is a real beast. And you can't beat that screen.
Imo if you're not afraid to flash, the galaxy S is just awesome.
btw, the battery of the desire s is a little bit smaller than the one on the galaxy s, but I don't know about the battery life.
But yeah, the desire s might be better out of the box, since without lagfix the galaxy s isn't all that great...
The only advantage the desire s has other than that is more RAM.
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Sgs is naff outa the box, laggy n crap, but v good once tweaked
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thanks, what exactly is wrong with it out the box? i used a lot at stores and don't find this problem...?
koflem said:
Galaxy S, of course
You can already flash gingerbread and there are lots of custom roms.
Using cm7, it's blazing fast and you can overclock it up to 1.5Ghz with some kernels (but most phones can only reach 1.4Ghz or 1.44Ghz stable, which is still a 40%+ overclock)
So if you wanted a better cpu... well the cpu is a real beast. And you can't beat that screen.
Imo if you're not afraid to flash, the galaxy S is just awesome.
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Thanks! Will it get the official update too?
is it also true the Desire S supports 14.4 mb/s speed while the sgs is only 7.2mb/s...?
Will there be a great difference?
is this "friend" hypothetical ? lol
SGS will get Gingerbread officially yes, Some users have it official at the moment , dependant on the location in the world.
i too would suggest SGS, The desire is a good phone and i doubt your "friend" would be disappointed if they chose it.
BUT !!! as mentioned before the SGS is awesome when tweaked, loads of excellent developers making it even more awesome. and the screen..... its unbeatable
But as a conclusion, the SGS is a year old, why not get your "friend" to invest in an SGS2 ??
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is this "friend" hypothetical ? lol
SGS will get Gingerbread officially yes, Some users have it official at the moment , dependant on the location in the world.
i too would suggest SGS, The desire is a good phone and i doubt your "friend" would be disappointed if they chose it.
BUT !!! as mentioned before the SGS is awesome when tweaked, loads of excellent developers making it even more awesome. and the screen..... its unbeatable
But as a conclusion, the SGS is a year old, why not get your "friend" to invest in an SGS2 ??
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yeh ahah. cheers
My friend is very non-tech and is a n00b at modding he wants a phone now lol, he cant wait as he's going on a looong holiday soon and wants a good phone... it's his choice haha.
nice it has GB update! But i heard the sgs has bad gps problems.... :/ also the pro abt the sgs is it has 8gb storage > 1.1gb sotrage on the desire s..
Is a sgs non-tweaked out the box stable/good?
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yeh ahah. cheers
My friend is very non-tech and is a n00b at modding he wants a phone now lol, he cant wait as he's going on a looong holiday soon and wants a good phone... it's his choice haha.
nice it has GB update! But i heard the sgs has bad gps problems.... :/ also the pro abt the sgs is it has 8gb storage > 1.1gb sotrage on the desire s..
Is a sgs non-tweaked out the box stable/good?
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GPS can be affected on a scale of things,
But there are countless threads / apps / tweaks to make it better, I personally dont have any GPS issues and never did when i was on a stock ROM.
if your friend is happy with a nice stable phone with many uses then a stock SGS will suit him fine.
however if he is like a lot of us android users and wants to hack the crap out of his SGS he will be jizzing in his pants .... lol
The sgs comes in a 16 GB version too.... and sd card upto 32GB so plenty and plenty of storage
EDIT: i was happy running stock ROMS - but i knew i could get more from my phone so i got involved with the wrong crowd, ended up becoming an addict and now i have withdrawal symptoms if i dont get my daily fix DAMN YOU XDA !!! lol
azzledazzle said:
GPS can be affected on a scale of things,
But there are countless threads / apps / tweaks to make it better, I personally dont have any GPS issues and never did when i was on a stock ROM.
if your friend is happy with a nice stable phone with many uses then a stock SGS will suit him fine.
however if he is like a lot of us android users and wants to hack the crap out of his SGS he will be jizzing in his pants .... lol
The sgs comes in a 16 GB version too.... and sd card upto 32GB so plenty and plenty of storage
EDIT: i was happy running stock ROMS - but i knew i could get more from my phone so i got involved with the wrong crowd, ended up becoming an addict and now i have withdrawal symptoms if i dont get my daily fix DAMN YOU XDA !!! lol
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Haha, thanks for the info mate, it's much appreciated!" i guess that could clear things up a bit for him! The only minor con in the gs is it has 512 ram which doesnt seem much compared to the desire s 768mb haha.. i also kind of get where your heading .
my tab is so damn laggy and i have been on the stock rom since i got it.. tempted to flash now..
unused RAM is wasted RAM.
take no notice of things like that, you will hear a lot about quadrant scores , RAM tweaks and so on.
if your phone feels fast for YOU thats all that matters, if you want a little extra speed then you can have it lol.
its all about finding the right balance for YOU, dont always panic about not having the newest ROM / Kernel / update and so on...
and by saying YOU - i mean your friend lol
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unused RAM is wasted RAM.
take no notice of things like that, you will hear a lot about quadrant scores , RAM tweaks and so on.
if your phone feels fast for YOU thats all that matters, if you want a little extra speed then you can have it lol.
its all about finding the right balance for YOU, dont always panic about not having the newest ROM / Kernel / update and so on...
and by saying YOU - i mean your friend lol
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thanks lol But why do lots of reviews say more RAM makes it smoother??? If it is just going to waste??
hopefully performance should be satisying enough
well its like RAM on a PC - it can make multi tasking smoother, but if you have 1GB of RAM and eveything you do uses 0.5GB of RAM, that extra is wasting away.
dont buy in to the hype of more is better, its not always the case, if it feels quick and responds quick, and that satisfies you, thats the main point.
Hell !! i would like a super computer with 10GB RAM - 5TB hard drive and so on... But my current PC does everything i want and it does it quick...... if ya catch my drift ?
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well its like RAM on a PC - it can make multi tasking smoother, but if you have 1GB of RAM and eveything you do uses 0.5GB of RAM, that extra is wasting away.
dont buy in to the hype of more is better, its not always the case, if it feels quick and responds quick, and that satisfies you, thats the main point.
Hell !! i would like a super computer with 10GB RAM - 5TB hard drive and so on... But my current PC does everything i want and it does it quick...... if ya catch my drift ?
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yeh, thanks haha!
Bump, still open to opinions believe it or not! he has 2 great offers for both devices.,.
will sgs still need 'fixes' after GB update?
cheers guys
As long as Samsung uses RFS as a file-system I believe it will always need a lagfix. I doubt they will ever get it right.
With every update people keep saying it's not required anymore, but when using a single ROM for more than 3 weeks it is imho.
I had XWJS3 for 4 weeks and it started lagging like hell.
So for average-users I tend to recommend HTC.

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