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Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at ₹26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro (₹15k), Zenfone Pro m1(₹13k).
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
adwaitk007 said:
Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at 26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro, Zenfone Pro m1.
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
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Well, a phone isn't all about hardware. Yeah, it may have a SD660 that's just a minor upgrade over the SD636 in RN5 pro and it may have just 4gb ram but the software experience also counts.
Nokia is the only OEM right now except Google to guarantee next 2 years of Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nokia 7 plus isn't a value for money device in any way. Not even Nokia advertises it as such. It's a premium mid range device. You are paying that premium cost (double) for gorgeous sturdy design and continuous software support. Also, the camera is better on Nokia 7 plus even though not by a huge margin but keeping in mind the regular updates Nokia provide, they can improve it in future.
Software support doesn't come cheap. Yeah, it could have been priced under 25k for the psychological satisfaction though.
Going by your requirements, I feel RN5 pro is great for you and even Zenfone pro.
The vibration intensity is great on Nokia 7 plus.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
Nokia 7 plus is a good phone with great build quality. I bought it offline for 25.5k. There are few stutters due to aggressive battery saving governor. Nokia's service is fast and cheap. My brother's Nokia 5 got screen replacement for 2k from service centre.
If you don't want it-
Honor 8 pro will be a better choice for you if you want value for money. It's for 21k on Flipkart. My experience from Honor phones is great. They don't slow down their phones like some manufacturers do(Moto,Apple) and provide 2 major android updates to all phones except holly series. Bootloader is unlockable and you won't void your warranty.
K.khiladi said:
Well, a phone isn't all about hardware. Yeah, it may have a SD660 that's just a minor upgrade over the SD636 in RN5 pro and it may have just 4gb ram but the software experience also counts.
Nokia is the only OEM right now except Google to guarantee next 2 years of Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nokia 7 plus isn't a value for money device in any way. Not even Nokia advertises it as such. It's a premium mid range device. You are paying that premium cost (double) for gorgeous sturdy design and continuous software support. Also, the camera is better on Nokia 7 plus even though not by a huge margin but keeping in mind the regular updates Nokia provide, they can improve it in future.
Software support doesn't come cheap. Yeah, it could have been priced under 25k for the psychological satisfaction though.
Going by your requirements, I feel RN5 pro is great for you and even Zenfone pro.
The vibration intensity is great on Nokia 7 plus.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
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Thanks buddy for your response. Regarding software updates, even though Zenfone Pro m1 is not "Android 1", they too promised 2 updates on Android P & Q and bimonthly security patches. So I am not convinced on "software" being a reason for this. I am on Android 6 right now since last couple of years and I doubt what difference it makes to have Android 8 on day to day use. Even Xiaomi is prompt on providing continuous update. I have Mi4i since last 3 years with my family member and it still receive updates once or twice a year. So paying this much as a premium for "software" is not convincing.
Regarding build quality, yes, I do agree! Nokia 7 plus looks stunning!! But again, we put heavy back cover, tempered glasses on top of Gorilla! I mean! What's the use of this then!
shubham412302 said:
Nokia 7 plus is a good phone with great build quality. I bought it offline for 25.5k. There are few stutters due to aggressive battery saving governor. Nokia's service is fast and cheap. My brother's Nokia 5 got screen replacement for 2k from service centre.
If you don't want it-
Honor 8 pro will be a better choice for you if you want value for money. It's for 21k on Flipkart. My experience from Honor phones is great. They don't slow down their phones like some manufacturers do(Moto,Apple) and provide 2 major android updates to all phones except holly series. Bootloader is unlockable and you won't void your warranty.
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Thanks buddy for your response. Please let me know more about service center network of Nokia. This might help me to go for it. I have very pathetic experience for Lenovo. The service centers here in Pune works on 100 tokens/day system and you have to be in queue early morning to get the token. Then they will keep your phone for at least a month for some silly fixes! Which makes you feel like a looser!! I still remember the old Nokia service centers were you were given satisfactory service in one go and you leave the service center with a smile!
Please let me know how is the service center network of Nokia now? are they tied up with third party service providers like most of the brands have done in recent years? or have a dedicated store to resolve issues on priority without any discrimination of issues?
I think u know the answer well.but still let me give u some suggestions. If u want to have after sale support go with nokia. If u are okay without after sale support go with xiaomi. And if u can live with a normal front cam and decent after sale support go with asus max pro m1. But if u want all the satisfaction go with nokia 7 plus. I think u will get a good value of ur old phone in exchange n also arrange a icici debit or credit card on which u will have a instant cashback of 10% on amazon.
One more thing if u r a fan of custom roms my only suggestion will be for redmi note 5 pro.
adwaitk007 said:
Thanks buddy for your response. Regarding software updates, even though Zenfone Pro m1 is not "Android 1", they too promised 2 updates on Android P & Q and bimonthly security patches. So I am not convinced on "software" being a reason for this. I am on Android 6 right now since last couple of years and I doubt what difference it makes to have Android 8 on day to day use. Even Xiaomi is prompt on providing continuous update. I have Mi4i since last 3 years with my family member and it still receive updates once or twice a year. So paying this much as a premium for "software" is not convincing.
Regarding build quality, yes, I do agree! Nokia 7 plus looks stunning!! But again, we put heavy back cover, tempered glasses on top of Gorilla! I mean! What's the use of this then!
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Nokia provides monthly security updates and Zenfone provides bi monthly updates. It may not sound huge to you but if some vulnerability comes up by chance, Nokia would have upper hand.
Well, new android platform updates brings better security, better performance and better features. Xiaomi provides updates but doesn't upgrade the underlying android version. The RN5 pro is still running Android 7.0 and in next few months, Android 9.0 is coming. There's day light difference in 6.0 and 8.0. The difference is gonna be bigger with 9.0.
Receiving 1 or 2 updates a year maybe enough for you but not everyone else. As I can sense from your arguments, being on latest software isn't a priority for you and that's fine.
But it does take a premium to provide monthly and not bi-monthly security updates or 3 updates a year . It may not seem much to you as you brought in Zenfone too into the argument but that's the only phone from Asus running on stock Android. Nokia has more than 10 devices.
The camera on Nokia 7 plus is exceptionally well. Also, RN5 pro maybe as fast as Nokia 7 plus but there's also a point about overall smoothness which is different from speed.
The SD660 is costly than SD636 and the phone also has ZEISS branding which again asks for a premium.
Also, Xiaomi's selling strategy is different from Nokia's.
Regarding build quality, Nokia durability tests have time and again showed that even without using case or tempered glass, they can withstand a few falls easily. Now whether or not your Nokia device will break in one fall also depends upon you luck. The in hand feel of the Nokia 7 plus is on par with the Pixel 2/XL. I would suggest you to go to a shop or mall and feel the device yourself.
I will simplify it for you.
The best value for money device is Zenfone pro just as you want to.
Zenfone pro - No fast charging support. If you can live with it, go for it.
RN5 pro - Miui. If you can live with it, go for it for better front cam performance compared to Zenfone pro.
I don't think custom rom support means much to you but if it does, both Zenfone pro and RN5 pro will be good for you.
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vivek638 said:
I think u know the answer well.but still let me give u some suggestions. If u want to have after sale support go with nokia. If u are okay without after sale support go with xiaomi. And if u can live with a normal front cam and decent after sale support go with asus max pro m1. But if u want all the satisfaction go with nokia 7 plus. I think u will get a good value of ur old phone in exchange n also arrange a icici debit or credit card on which u will have a instant cashback of 10% on amazon.
One more thing if u r a fan of custom roms my only suggestion will be for redmi note 5 pro.
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Well I have left that custom ROM world long back. Had craze but not anymore. Well please let me know about Nokia service centers in India. How are they now as I asked in reply above.
K.khiladi said:
Nokia provides monthly security updates and Zenfone provides bi monthly updates. It may not sound huge to you but if some vulnerability comes up by chance, Nokia would have upper hand.
Well, new android platform updates brings better security, better performance and better features. Xiaomi provides updates but doesn't upgrade the underlying android version. The RN5 pro is still running Android 7.0 and in next few months, Android 9.0 is coming. There's day light difference in 6.0 and 8.0. The difference is gonna be bigger with 9.0.
Receiving 1 or 2 updates a year maybe enough for you but not everyone else. As I can sense from your arguments, being on latest software isn't a priority for you and that's fine.
But it does take a premium to provide monthly and not bi-monthly security updates or 3 updates a year . It may not seem much to you as you brought in Zenfone too into the argument but that's the only phone from Asus running on stock Android. Nokia has more than 10 devices.
The camera on Nokia 7 plus is exceptionally well. Also, RN5 pro maybe as fast as Nokia 7 plus but there's also a point about overall smoothness which is different from speed.
The SD660 is costly than SD636 and the phone also has ZEISS branding which again asks for a premium.
Also, Xiaomi's selling strategy is different from Nokia's.
Regarding build quality, Nokia durability tests have time and again showed that even without using case or tempered glass, they can withstand a few falls easily. Now whether or not your Nokia device will break in one fall also depends upon you luck. The in hand feel of the Nokia 7 plus is on par with the Pixel 2/XL. I would suggest you to go to a shop or mall and feel the device yourself.
I will simplify it for you.
The best value for money device is Zenfone pro just as you want to.
Zenfone pro - No fast charging support. If you can live with it, go for it.
RN5 pro - Miui. If you can live with it, go for it for better front cam performance compared to Zenfone pro.
I don't think custom rom support means much to you but if it does, both Zenfone pro and RN5 pro will be good for you.
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That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
adwaitk007 said:
Well I have left that custom ROM world long back. Had craze but not anymore. Well please let me know about Nokia service centers in India. How are they now as I asked in reply above.
That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
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Service centre is yet to test by me after all these long years
But i can assure you that u will not regret after buying this phone
Regarding screen issue i m one of tge victim. And has already changed my another n7p. Its my 2nd device of the same phone. N still isuue is there. But it will get resolved (i hope so) otherwise i will have to visit nokia care for display.
As this phone is rolling out to maximum no of countries it will take time to resolve the different issues faced by different person here. In others post or on reddit or even on nokia forum people are telling that they have visited with n7p n they did resolved the issue. So my guess is after sales service nokia is doing good.
Coming to your preference of buying the device it totally depends on u how much u want to spend. If u have a budget of 25k go for it. If u have more budget then wait for one+6. If ur budget it tight go for either Zenfone max pro or note 5 pro.
I have personally used rn5p and its an awesome device.(not with miui in my case).
adwaitk007 said:
That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
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People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
vivek638 said:
Service centre is yet to test by me after all these long years
But i can assure you that u will not regret after buying this phone
Regarding screen issue i m one of tge victim. And has already changed my another n7p. Its my 2nd device of the same phone. N still isuue is there. But it will get resolved (i hope so) otherwise i will have to visit nokia care for display.
As this phone is rolling out to maximum no of countries it will take time to resolve the different issues faced by different person here. In others post or on reddit or even on nokia forum people are telling that they have visited with n7p n they did resolved the issue. So my guess is after sales service nokia is doing good.
Coming to your preference of buying the device it totally depends on u how much u want to spend. If u have a budget of 25k go for it. If u have more budget then wait for one+6. If ur budget it tight go for either Zenfone max pro or note 5 pro.
I have personally used rn5p and its an awesome device.(not with miui in my case).
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Thanks buddy! Appreciate that. Well I have budget but I am bit uncertain on spending it on a device for which almost same hardware specs are out there at almost half of the price. I loved OnePlus5t but again it's too much for me. I am yet to fully utilize my 32 gb lenovo, that kindda user I am. So OP6 is in another league for me.
Well I am quiet considering RN5P 6GB variant against Nokia 7 plus. And yes, service center matters a lot. You can't guarantee what bad luck you carry!
BTW paying that much and compromising on issues is not what i think is good. I hope this screen issue is fixed in upcoming lots as I can see few of you have already reported it. and considering the sell volume, the percentage is quite a lot
K.khiladi said:
People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
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Thanks buddy. Well I have seen someone have posted screenshot of "orange" android logo coming up saying device has reached heating limit. Well what's the limit for this device. My current Lenovo Vibe P1 is also with Fast charging support and believe me I know what heating means. You can iron your cotton cloths if my device is connected to charger, that much it heats up!
K.khiladi said:
People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
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Nah they don't have that much stock. Even i waited for about a week n no call from them about stock then only i opt out for amazon. N this screen issue may be fixed by further updates. Maybe m more concerned about it as i was using s8 previously. So lets see wether it get fixed or not. Anyway we have nokia care so not to worry that much
adwaitk007 said:
Thanks buddy. Well I have seen someone have posted screenshot of "orange" android logo coming up saying device has reached heating limit. Well what's the limit for this device. My current Lenovo Vibe P1 is also with Fast charging support and believe me I know what heating means. You can iron your cotton cloths if my device is connected to charger, that much it heats up!
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That orange android logo shouldn't happen. That's a faulty hardware. Anything under 45 degree is fine.
Right now, I am just browsing between few apps and the device temperature is 36 degree. If I do his while cheating, the temperature will go to 41 easily and if i watch videos or play game while charging, it will go even further upto 45.
That's why, playing games or watching videos( more so streaming videos) isn't advisable.
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If u want to know about battery status here is an example
vivek638 said:
Nah they don't have that much stock. Even i waited for about a week n no call from them about stock then only i opt out for amazon. N this screen issue may be fixed by further updates. Maybe m more concerned about it as i was using s8 previously. So lets see wether it get fixed or not. Anyway we have nokia care so not to worry that much
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Umm... I guess Nokia underestimated the demand for the phone. Also, the first batches of phone have some QA issues sometimes.
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so considering these few hardware issues, I think I should wait for couple of months more. Hope they will fix this in upcoming lot.
adwaitk007 said:
so considering these few hardware issues, I think I should wait for couple of months more. Hope they will fix this in upcoming lot.
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Yup. And who knows maybe they will reduce the price a bit too.
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adwaitk007 said:
Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at ₹26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro (₹15k), Zenfone Pro m1(₹13k).
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
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Nokia 7 Plus( I've had it since 2nd May)-
1. Screen: My unit has no issues. Its punchy, vibrant and nicely visible in sunlight.
2. Battery: Amazing. Normal warming while charging is in every device today( unless you play games while charging; I also take off my case while charging so it hardly gets warm). Very well optimised battery. First phone of mine that I don't charge every day.
3. Service Centers: Xiaomi SC's are not bad. I've experienced with 3 of them from 3 different cities of Punjab. If you are polite to them, they return the favor. Don't know anything about Nokia ones yet.
4. Android One: You know about Nokia, HMD was amazing with updates even last year when they weren't Android One. This year will only get better. ALSO
ASUS in their launch event did not "PROMISE" 2 android updates and bimonthly security updates. THe word used by him were " Most likely". They can back off from that anytime.
5. Vibration intesnsity great... Speaker loudness is meh.
6. Camera: Not that better than RN5Pro. Besides, everyone and their aunties download Gcam on RN5Pro and N7Plus so its a moot point.
7. Value For Money: Nothing beats RN5Pro. DOn't buy Zenfone its bleh. Nokia7p is overpriced by about 4k.
I tried for RN5pro for 3-4 flash sales but couldn't so went for 7Plus. I don't regret it as its a great device.
So
Nokia 7Plus is better than RN5Pro.... but its not Rs 11k better... certainly NOT...
K.khiladi said:
Yup. And who knows maybe they will reduce the price a bit too.
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yeah. I guess price is the concern. Also Nokia 6.1 is launched at 19k. Well not that great hardware again to pay that much premium!
Xebeck said:
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Nokia 7 Plus( I've had it since 2nd May)-
1. Screen: My unit has no issues. Its punchy, vibrant and nicely visible in sunlight.
2. Battery: Amazing. Normal warming while charging is in every device today( unless you play games while charging; I also take off my case while charging so it hardly gets warm). Very well optimised battery. First phone of mine that I don't charge every day.
3. Service Centers: Xiaomi SC's are not bad. I've experienced with 3 of them from 3 different cities of Punjab. If you are polite to them, they return the favor. Don't know anything about Nokia ones yet.
4. Android One: You know about Nokia, HMD was amazing with updates even last year when they weren't Android One. This year will only get better. ALSO
ASUS in their launch event did not "PROMISE" 2 android updates and bimonthly security updates. THe word used by him were " Most likely". They can back off from that anytime.
5. Vibration intesnsity great... Speaker loudness is meh.
6. Camera: Not that better than RN5Pro. Besides, everyone and their aunties download Gcam on RN5Pro and N7Plus so its a moot point.
7. Value For Money: Nothing beats RN5Pro. DOn't buy Zenfone its bleh. Nokia7p is overpriced by about 4k.
I tried for RN5pro for 3-4 flash sales but couldn't so went for 7Plus. I don't regret it as its a great device.
So
Nokia 7Plus is better than RN5Pro.... but its not Rs 11k better... certainly NOT...
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Hey thanks buddy. Well that's quite an honest review.
adwaitk007 said:
yeah. I guess price is the concern. Also Nokia 6.1 is launched at 19k. Well not that great hardware again to pay that much premium!
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I feel it's their strategy. They don't wanna sell in heaps like xiaomi. 10 years back when Nokia was reigning, even then they used to charge premium for their phones. They still know that the brand name holds prominence. They want to be seen as a premium smartphone brand.
They already are a profitable company in India just after a year in market.
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K.khiladi said:
I feel it's their strategy. They don't wanna sell in heaps like xiaomi. 10 years back when Nokia was reigning, even then they used to charge premium for their phones. They still know that the brand name holds prominence. They want to be seen as a premium smartphone brand.
They already are a profitable company in India just after a year in market.
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yup. Well, while browsing through flipkart, found Honor 8 pro is going at discounted price. it's in just ₹20 k !! I think that's an amazing offer which I should seriously consider! What say ?
Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?
I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.
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I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Sorry pal I meant lack of ROMs.
8 hours? Not bad but consider if it was as well optimized as hear vanilla phones.
Oneplus 5 835 - No limits ROM. 14 hours 30 minutes.
Battery size is 3400 Vs the Huawei having 4000
Lol I expected more
We should be clearing 10 hours daily
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Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.
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Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.
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Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?
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I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.
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That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.
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That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.
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All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.
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I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, :laugh:
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now
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All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.
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Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.
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Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.
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Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.
The camera, battery, design, screen, storage space, are all far above my expectations. Well done huawei. I'm very glad I did the change from oneplus and Samsung.
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Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, [emoji23]
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now
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Wow.
That makes you at least seventy.
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dladz said:
Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.
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I think op held back on the battery and going to improve it for o6t
Sold mine. The software update situation was just a joke and frustrated me more than the benefits the rest of the device brought to me.
Shame but learnt my lesson now. Pixel or OnePlus devices for me going forward.
I'm having mixed feelings about the device. I have bought it twice, as I wasn't happy, so I could compare and find out if the problem is the device or me.
So far, I'm very happy with build quality, usability, design, screen and functionality. The camera of my second device is better than the one of the first, but I'm struggling to get good battery life with both. 3 hours DOT, maybe four if I'm lucky. I think that's not really good, and as both devices behave like this, the problem must be me. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong, as even my old rusty iPhone 6 can give me 3 hours of DOT, so I expected a lot more in this aspect. Other than that, I really like this device.
It's amazing
The missing notifications from some apps is a problem, wish someone could do a guide about how to fix that
Also, battery drains pretty fast, i can't get a full-day through it
Are VoLTE and VoWIFI draining the battery faster, any thoughts on that?
Best phoned I ever had. Slow at getting upgrades but can live without it. Battery, camera, performance are fantastic. How people can complain about the battery life? I am a heavy user and and can't kill the battery in one day
I get 3 hours SOT. I don‘t think that‘s stellar.
I switched from Samsung to p20 pro and thats the best ive ever done.
I love the p20 pro, its amazing, the screen, the smotheness, the SOT and so on.....
Greetz
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
xphyle1971 said:
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
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I have it in writing from Huawei support that we were getting these updates.... The face unlock and the gpu turbo... I also have a BLA-A09 Mate 10 Pro. This does piss me off...
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KevinAce said:
I have it in writing from Huawei support that we were getting these updates.... The face unlock and the gpu turbo... I also have a BLA-A09 Mate 10 Pro. This does piss me off...
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Unfortunately, technical support people just read from a script and are likely the last to know the truth.
xphyle1971 said:
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
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If you unlocked the bootloader. You can manually flash the .img via fastboot or twrp. But judging from the way you describe your situation; you havent unlock your' device thus may not be rebrand or mnually update.
I just called huawei and ripped them a new a**hole. I suggest everyone do the same.
Huawei Customer Service 1-888-548-2934
They claimed that the "rumors" are not official and the updates will come in batches and although the usa variant has not been officially announced they "are working on it".
I specifically quoted android authority and after checking they said that news is "misleading"
Ugh.. tagging along here as well from the USA. I love my Mate 10 just hate that we dont get the new goodies. I was hoping not to deal with unlocking and such.
pickupman66 said:
Ugh.. tagging along here as well from the USA. I love my Mate 10 just hate that we dont get the new goodies. I was hoping not to deal with unlocking and such.
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And now that Huawei is not allowing to unlock bootloader, it's gonna be really hard to do something if something comes up, like rebranding or something.
you can just use https://www.dc-unlocker.com/ to unlock the bootloader
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And now that Huawei is not allowing to unlock bootloader, it's gonna be really hard to do something if something comes up, like rebranding or something.
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I got my unlock code when I first got the phone just in case. just never processed it because there was not a need.
granted my device has been flawless for me. No BT issues, no reboots. it works quite well. wifi hot spot was enabled too which i could not do with a google device unless I rooted
Oh so what if you bought a 2000 dollar proche design mate 10
Spoilerman said:
Oh so what if you bought a 2000 dollar proche design mate 10
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If you did that, you probably have enough money to buy the international version of the phone.
GPU turbo isn't a big deal at all.
You should all have read about the benchmark cheating of Kirin 970 devices and by now you should have read that the Mate 10 Pro is inferior to a Snapdragon 820 in terms of GPU.
Getting ~10% better performance out of a GPU that is worse than the Snapdragon 820 will do nothing.
Just don't buy Huawei devices in the future.
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GPU turbo isn't a big deal at all.
You should all have read about the benchmark cheating of Kirin 970 devices and by now you should have read that the Mate 10 Pro is inferior to a Snapdragon 820 in terms of GPU.
Getting ~10% better performance out of a GPU that is worse than the Snapdragon 820 will do nothing.
Just don't buy Huawei devices in the future.
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I have noticed a massive improvement playing Pubg mobile. framerates are not necessarily higher but no overheating anymore and no framedrops, its a lot smoother now and unlike before i can play a full 30min match without having 15fps at the end of the game. I agree that huawei is nto a good choice for gaming though.... I feel like the gpu turbo was a necessity rather than "great product support"
Hey everyone,
I just had to do some clean-up on this thread. I understand that there are definitely some feelings on both sides of the argument here, but regardless of where you stand, politics are not allowed on XDA (see XDA Forum Rule 2.4).
We are a forum dedicated to tinkering with our mobile devices. Let's remember that we are a community of people with similar interests and focus on that instead of focusing on all the negative crap going on in the world.
Thanks!
rwilco12
You guys seen the latest hands on? The mate 20 is nuts. Love my 9, but that camera!
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-mate-20-pro-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-9/
If it was available in the US(VZW), I would definitely be getting it. But our govt doesn't like Huawei.
It's nice and all but it's not a Note. Plus at $1200 I would have to pass unless there were some kind of trade incentive. I don't trust Huawei enough to give them my personal info either.
Yea. the whole potential spying on the customers would be a dent. Then again.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/paranoia-will-destroy-you-why-chinese-tech-isnt-spying-on-us/
I'd presume it's unlikely and probably safe.
Google already spy on everything you do, what's one more set of eyes?
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Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
I was very interested in the Mate 10 a while ago but the one drawback that the Mate 20 series continues with is no support for WiFi calling, which I rely on due to our limited network coverage.
bignazpwns said:
Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
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What do you do? Yea. Suppose it's similar to the dji and us army fiasco.
bignazpwns said:
Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
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What do you do? Yea. Suppose it's similar to the dji and us army fiasco.
Performance not good as they claim. After some big problems ( or scandals) they got, I think we need to wait to confirm it good or not.
eMMC instead of UFS on P10/P10+, noisy about Kirin 970 but it not good enough + thermal problem, benchmark cheating ...
Huawei fear mongering sure seems to have worked. I'd still by a Huawei but not at that price.
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It's nice and all but it's not a Note...............
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Exactly,comparing any phone to a Note is kinda pointless.
It's in a class of its own,not necessarily better,but,it's a unicorn.
Buy it for the S-Pen &/or the aesthetic/feel-in-hand,otherwise,there's an ocean of phones to choose from.
Limeybastard said:
Huawei fear mongering sure seems to have worked. I'd still by a Huawei but not at that price.
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Totally agree,all the mfgs & service providers,regardless of country of origin,use the same playbook,no need to fear one any more (or less) than another,regarding safeguarding your privacy/info.
also, no unlocking of the bootloader, have a mate 10 pro that i keep on a lower firmware since if i update i get a newer version of xloader so i can't downgrade without bricking the device
I don't trust Huawei. They cheated on benchmarks, they lied about camera possibilities on P20 Pro (slo-mo). Not enough convinced in what they claim.
Gotta wonder how that 4200 man battery will do. Maybe lies as well...
Huawei I would not touch again even if someone offered one to me. Great hardware crap software. The way that they think that they are Apple is just beyond joke. Now what I mean by that is EMUI is just a poor version of iOS and the way they restrict third party launchers from working on their phones is beyond joke. The amount of people moaning about the performance when they install pixel launchers is crazy.
I had that issue and I just hate the way they try to make you use Huawei Home launcher and scare you with safety notifications. So for me to be back on Samsung and having the note 9 which has a headphone Jack memory and no notch I say thank you very much.
No lte band 71, no wifi calling. No us warranty.
They chose the winner out of specsheets only? Wow. What a review.
I had a P20 Pro and was pretty disappointed in the camera. Sure the Night Mode was awesome but that was it. Otherwise for the most part it produced highly unrealistic images with waaay too agressive HDR/tone mapping. It really looked terrible at times. I found myself having to work against the camera on the P20 Pro to get the photos I wanted. I much prefer the photos my Note 9 gives me.
Also the P20 Pro had horrible optimization of software. Very choppy specially in all Google apps that stutters a lot. The software is overall pretty aggressive in its RAM handling and you won't get all notifications no matter what you do. The developers of the VLC app blocked Huawei phones from downloading their app becuase of their background process restrictions.
I do like Huawei and I've had a few of their phones but I do not like the direction they are taking with their cameras specifically.
Daniehabazin said:
also, no unlocking of the bootloader, have a mate 10 pro that i keep on a lower firmware since if i update i get a newer version of xloader so i can't downgrade without bricking the device
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We now able to unlock bl for about 55$ even latest devices
Update: 23$ for get unlock code faster ( than 20$ )
Zanr Zij said:
We now able to unlock bl for about 55$ even latest devices
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maybe, but no downgrading without bricking.
also, super slow updates...
never a huawei phone again.
i work in IT and have been "bribed" (free dinners with lots of alcohol) by huawei to get us to switch from cisco to their stuff in several datacenters.
So alot of people (especially in the UK) will be coming to the end of contract and life cycle on the p20. The question is....what next.
Do we go p40 without Google services or look at something different?
Iv loved the p20, it's been reliable and solid, but I'm a Google loyalist. I use the services and apps and the idea of losing apps iv paid for already on Google play just seems a step to far.
Iv found updates painfully slow to arrive through O2, months and months behind. So definitely an unlocked from carrier handset next.
But what one?
Samsung
One Plus
Or something completely different?
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
The Restless Soul said:
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
If you want updates to your phone, you have 2 choices. Iphone or pixel.
OnePlus is super easy to unlock the bootloader and will not void the warranty. Then just use lineageOS.
I had enough of of the Huawei software. I was expecting Android 10 by now, but nothings been said about that release for a while now.
Add locked bootloaders and no development, made a rather boring phone. It was the only Android phone I've ever had which didn't even get a working TWRP after 2 years!
I went for the Pixel 4XL yesterday, and I'm very happy with it. Bootloader unlocked, rooted and GPay working fine
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
The Restless Soul said:
Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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It's supposed to be splash proof. Regular mi 10 has bigger battery but pro version has better camera.
If you care about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
I've never owned Xiaomi and frankly speaking I am bit curious, especially that this year they claim they won't compete with other flagships with price factor only. I guess I'll order it online, use it and return it within 14 days if I don't like it. Samsung is not an option to me as I want a handset with SD 865 and my region is "blessed" with their Exynos. Pixel is overpriced on the other hand and designwise...just horrible. I'd rather go for OP if their quality check is improved this year.
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If you case about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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I'm sure you're right about previous releases. Thank you for your feedback. It's good to hear some critical voice before the final decision is made. However there are already camera comparisons between mi 10 pro and s20 ultra and these pics/videos looks pretty good. Mi 10 pro camera is supposed to be revolutionary and able to compete with other flagships. Well we'll see.
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
Why do you need to upgrade? I'm holding off here in the UK until 5G becomes a reality and decent phones are available. New phones for 2020 so far (and into the Q2) don't really offer anything above what I currently have hardware wise. The phone works fine for me, battery lasts > 1 day even after 2 years.
dladz said:
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
dlevick said:
I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I am with EE, by far the best in London, Liverpool and Manchester for all the places I visit, getting expensive now but that fits perfectly for me...
What gives you the idea that EE will have the OnePlus , as in the new one?
That is the one I want.
For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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Honestly for me so long as ois is on the camera and it's got "some" development, the screen is 90hz or over..I'm in.
The rest is a bonus.
Oh and I miss that DND hardware switch
Apparently waterproofing, wireless charging is all on its way.
My only problem will be the price if they're all added, personally I couldn't care less about wireless charging, not when it idles so well and charges as fast as it does..maybe if I started using it I'd become a fan but I can't see it at the moment.
Time will tell.
Plus if they don't have the 8 pro on my carrier I ain't getting it lol.